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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:01 am

gandy wrote:that's wrong rambo, if you use steam cloud it will download it from there, restoring all your settings and binds.

About that, what if was suffering from horrible lag and decided to delete the counter strike folder so to reinstall everything from scratch?
I should disable Steam Clouds and then? Delete what CFGs?
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby RAMBO[EUR-ESP] on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 am

Hmm yea you are right gandy,disable steam cloud first.

You can delete all CFG folder,infact you can delete the whole cstrike folder too as the game will create it again.
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby KAL-EL on Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:11 am

RAMBO[EUR-ESP] wrote:Hmm yea you are right gandy,disable steam cloud first.

You can delete all CFG folder,infact you can delete the whole cstrike folder too as the game will create it again.


Thats what i did rambo, i just deleted all my CS source folders and deleted it from steam, i dont use steam cloud anyway. And i reinstalled a fresh version of CS source.

these are my settings that i have been using, and my reg is miles better:

rate 100000 (Ive 50mb Fiber Optic)
cl_updaterate 66
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_interp 0
cl_interp_ratio 1

That sets my lerp to 15.2 and is yellow most times, it flickers to white sometimes depends on the map. With them settings im getting better reg.
Choke rises to about 20 but this only happens at the start of the round and by the time ive bought my guns its gone, choke at the start of the round is completely normal so dont be to disheartened by it.
i also have 0 loss and like i said 0 choke.

Im also using the mat_queue_mode 2 as i have i7 and seems stable ie no crashes or anything.

Hope this helps anybody, but if you do try these, try to test them over a few days or so and not over 1 map, as different maps have different effects.
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby melipone on Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:18 pm

EWJ wrote:really?...damn thing makes no difference to me...how do i reset it to defaults to try to start again?

Right click CSS on steam list, go to properties-> launch options and put -autoconfig in there and lauch the game once. Then you can delete that line. That will make everything back to default except for steam cloud stuff like keyboard settings. If you want a fresh copy of the game just delete or rename the cstrike folder, do -autoconfig and then you should get a new unaltered copy. Not sure if you need to do "verify integrity". Think its automatic when you launch the game again. Then make a basic autoexec.cfg with some tweaks like rates etc. Then just tweak with the ingame options. You can get more fps with a config but its hit and miss if you don't know what the commands do..some configs make the game look terrible, some change mouse settings, bad rates, different sound options etc. Most commands are fine at default except rates, and just tweak other stuff with the in the game options


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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby EWJ on Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:46 pm

cheers melipone. :+1:
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby Cr4z33 on Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:37 am

melipone wrote:
EWJ wrote:really?...damn thing makes no difference to me...how do i reset it to defaults to try to start again?

Right click CSS on steam list, go to properties-> launch options and put -autoconfig in there and lauch the game once. Then you can delete that line. That will make everything back to default except for steam cloud stuff like keyboard settings. If you want a fresh copy of the game just delete or rename the cstrike folder, do -autoconfig and then you should get a new unaltered copy. Not sure if you need to do "verify integrity". Think its automatic when you launch the game again. Then make a basic autoexec.cfg with some tweaks like rates etc. Then just tweak with the ingame options. You can get more fps with a config but its hit and miss if you don't know what the commands do..some configs make the game look terrible, some change mouse settings, bad rates, different sound options etc. Most commands are fine at default except rates, and just tweak other stuff with the in the game options

Wow that fixed almost all the ping problems I had after the big update!
I am starting thinking then that Steam Clouds might seriously affect the bandwidth/ping of our line.
That might explain why at round start the ping was going so high.
Perhaps all achievements, scores, etc., etc. get synced with Steam servers at that point?
Anyway that -autoconfig made my day, thanks meli! <3
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby evil elmo on Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:48 am

um i have a question im not that great when it comes to steam stuff, i went to run css this morning and it came up with the message your files are not synced to steam cloud if you run your game now you risk losing your files and settings.

can i have that explained in english pretty plse with a cherry on top, im a noob but i cant help it :cry:
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby SkinnyMalinkyLongLeg on Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:26 pm

evil elmo wrote:um i have a question im not that great when it comes to steam stuff, i went to run css this morning and it came up with the message your files are not synced to steam cloud if you run your game now you risk losing your files and settings.

can i have that explained in english pretty plse with a cherry on top, im a noob but i cant help it :cry:


Considering it's just CSS, I wouldn't worry too much about it. It will be referring to personalised settings and customised files. Synchronisation is usually only a problem with games you can save.
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby Shutty on Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:43 pm

Okay.. I've got all my rates configured and have a lerp at 30.3 ms. (2/66)

It seems though that server fps has been completely screwed recently, at round start until people start dying the number of updates I receive from the server drops to 15/s... it only starts coming back up to 66/s when there are about 10-15 people left alive, which is like 1-2 mins into the round. I'm 99.9% postive it never used to be like this before the update (except maybe a bit on parthenon). Does anyone else get this?

I can connect to other large CSS servers (50+ players) and this does not happen, under full load I receive > 50/s except maybe for a few seconds at round start.

Does anyone know if something has changed server end, or how best to combat yellow lerp!

Thanks, Shutts


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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby Tiffle on Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:21 pm

I don't think you can do anything shutts to combat the yellow lerp its serverside problem,if thats what you meant.
But yeah its really anoying to be hs'd by a teleporting player or not hit nothing at some one thats in your xhair at the begining of rounds.

If you say it's not happening on other big servers maybe its a plugin or the stats thats causing the low server fps.


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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby melipone on Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:54 pm

Glad that -autoconfig sorted some problems

Shutty wrote:It seems though that server fps has been completely screwed recently, at round start until people start dying the number of updates I receive from the server drops to 15/s... it only starts coming back up to 66/s when there are about 10-15 people left alive, which is like 1-2 mins into the round. I'm 99.9% postive it never used to be like this before the update (except maybe a bit on parthenon). Does anyone else get this?

I can connect to other large CSS servers (50+ players) and this does not happen, under full load I receive > 50/s except maybe for a few seconds at round start.

Does anyone know if something has changed server end, or how best to combat yellow lerp!

Thanks, Shutts


Yeah I noticed before that the server FPS can go very low sometimes. Speced on Office server earlier and server fps was going down to under 10 (and red) at times. Do net_graph 4 I think and check the bottom left part. Dunno if this version just needs more power than the old one or what, or the new netcode requires more server bandwidth per player? Not sure if its similar on the other servers

Could sv_maxrate 100,000 cause that low server fps? I'd rather have like 35,000 rate if its means higher updates /s from the server and it having stable, high fps. No idea tho if thats the problem or if it was like that before


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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby Victor on Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:20 pm

GraVen7o wrote:Hello All.

After update i delete my old config.
With my new config Css runs fine.
no lag, better performance. (ping 50, fps 80)

MyConfig:

rate 100000
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_updaterate 66
cl_crosshairscale 1500
net_graph 1
net_graphpos 1
cl_interp 0
cl_interp_ratio 1
cl_show_achievement_popups 0
cl_disablehtmlmotd 1
cl_disablefreezecame 1
cl_cloud_settings 0



thats all u need...

try r_3dsky 0 for better performance on "old" systems.


My System:
IntelDualCore@3,2Ghz
3GB Ram
Gforce9500/512mb / ScreenResulotion in Css: 1680x1050
Network: 32Down/2up CableGermany

:)

i did the same as you but still lagging and high ping...

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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby meyenburg on Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:55 am

Valve must come with a fix eventually i hope. They have to.
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby Flawless on Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:12 am

It's the in coming data, only at 17.6/s normally it would/should be at least 30 and at most 66. I notice it on the server, normally only when everyone is alive.
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby deuxmx on Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:10 pm

rate 100000
cl_cmdrate 66
cl_updaterate 66
cl_crosshairscale 1500
net_graph 1
net_graphpos 1
cl_interp 0
cl_interp_ratio 1
cl_show_achievement_popups 0
cl_disablehtmlmotd 1
cl_disablefreezecame 1
cl_cloud_settings 0

worked great for me, as mentioned changing interp ratio to 2 stops the juddering when everyone is grouped together. but you may as well be shooting the sky. set to one is yellow all the time, and flickers orange odd occasion and white mostly.
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Re: Understading lerp & getting css to use more or less threads

Postby GraVen7o on Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:07 pm

@ Victor:

Your incoming data-rate is rly bad...

no idea why...hmm, What's your net-connection? (up . down)

Try different Rate Settings (25000, 35000, etc...)

best when the server isnt full (with 30-40 ppl)

many player have very high pings ( >200..) n the server goes laggy... :scratch:


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