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the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Kaelan002 on Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:30 pm

found this whilst doing a project on religious beliefs *groan*
Shanti Devi (11 December 1926 - 27 December 1987) was born in Delhi, India.[1] She began as a little girl in the 1930s to claim to remember details of a past life. The case was brought to the attention of Mahatma Gandhi who set up a commission to investigate; a report was published in 1936.[2] Two further reports were written at the time, one critical of the reincarnation claims,[3] and a rebuttal.[4] Later in life Shanti Devi was interviewed again, and a Swedish author who had visited her twice wrote a book about the case.[5]
According to these accounts, when she was about four years old, she told her parents that her real home was in Mathura where her husband lived, about 145 km from her home in Delhi. Discouraged by her parents, she ran away from home at age six, trying to reach Mathura. Back home, she stated in school that she was married and had died ten days after having giving birth to a child. Eventually interviewed by her teacher and headmaster, she used words from the Mathura dialect and divulged the name of her merchant husband, "Kedar Nath". The headmaster located a merchant by that name in Mathura who had lost his wife, Lugdi Devi, nine years earlier, ten days after having given birth to a son. Kedar Nath traveled to Delhi, pretending to be his brother, but Shanti Devi immediately recognized him and Lugdi Devi's son. As she knew several details of Kedar Nath's life with his wife, he was soon convinced that Shanti Devi was indeed the reincarnation of Lugdi Devi. When Mahatma Gandhi heard about the case, he met the child and set up a commission to investigate. The commission traveled with Shanti Devi to Mathura, arriving on November 15, 1935. There she recognized several family members, including the grandfather of Lugdi Devi. She found out that Kedar Nath had neglected to keep a number of promises he had made to Lugdi Devi on her deathbed. She then traveled home with her parents. The commission's report concluded that Shanti Devi was indeed the reincarnation of Lugdi Devi.[2]
Shanti Devi did not marry. She told her story again at the end of the 1950s, and once more in 1986 when she was interviewed by Ian Stevenson and K.S. Rawat. In this interview she also related her near death experiences while Lugdi Devi died.[1] K.S. Rawat continued his investigations in 1987, and the last interview took place only four days before her death on December 27, 1987.[6]
"Shanti Devi" means "Goddess of Peace" in Sanskrit.


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Devi

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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby login257 on Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:33 pm

i believe in reincarnation so it seems normal to me.
it is rare to remember a previous life but not impossible.


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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Gh0st.IRE on Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:47 pm

It is impossible if you didn't exist before now.
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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby login257 on Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:53 pm

thats where dualism steps in, the idea that we consist of a physical body and a non-physical part.

suppose dualism is the correct form in which we live in and we have a non corporeal side that can transfer between physical body's or even exist as a separate being then it would be possible to "live" multiple times.
when you die u cast off your physical body and transfer to the next.

this case could be seen as evidence for the idea of dualism and reincarnation.
how else could a child know all these things and even better, immediately recognize the man presented as a relative of her former husband as the former husband itself?

so the only question remains: are these facts true?
there is the possibility of a self fulfilling prophecy ...


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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Saurus on Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:51 am

It's been shown, (trying to find article) - that our DNA olds data, remnants of experiences - in terms of the body, of our parents/theirparents/theirparentsparents ... all the way to our ancestors
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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Kaelan002 on Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:02 am

Well yes if you are your parents son then you will have your parents dna... I dont really understand what you mean.
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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby coldandtired on Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:16 am

Saurus wrote:It's been shown, (trying to find article) - that our DNA olds data, remnants of experiences - in terms of the body, of our parents/theirparents/theirparentsparents ... all the way to our ancestors

It's called Lamarckism, and it's generally discounted (although seemingly experiencing a revival).
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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby MakeNine on Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:19 pm

There are plenty of young reincarnates and little buddhas in those parts of the world. It has everything to do with poverty and superstition, and of course there's never any supporting evidence.


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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Xhiea on Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:57 pm

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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Volkan^ on Tue May 10, 2011 12:16 pm

dualism is a really flawed way of thinking. cba to go into it, just do some searching on dualist philosophy and you will see.
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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Odgor on Tue May 10, 2011 1:42 pm

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Re: the girl who "reincarnated"

Postby Bobbobthebob on Wed May 11, 2011 10:20 am

Instinct is a group of behaviours that encourage survival. They are inherited but they have evolved due to their inherent advantages and aren’t from memories as such.

Saurus is claiming that our DNA changes through our lifetime as memories somehow modify your DNA. This is Lamarckism as has already been mentioned. It’d also make DNA profiling rather difficult as an old crime sample would become less useful as time goes on.
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