Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Bobbobthebob on Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:23 pm

Wizav wrote:
MakeNine wrote:Who would have thought alien spacecraft would make exactly the same sound as jet aircraft?


That's actually quite plausible, even a requirement somewhat. Whatever craft they use on there home planet wouldn't work on ours, None of our modern aircraft could fly on mars , venus or mercury even 5000 years from now they couldn't do it. You'd have to design a jet based on that planet. Even if they had super advanced jet engines different to ours they might not work in our atmosphere, Our own jets require oxygen for combustion which means there pretty much useless on any other planet.
...or you could just use rockets as we have for most of our propulsion in atmosphere-less space. You can ignore the chemical make up of an atmosphere if you carry the oxidising agent with you.
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Wizav on Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:23 pm

Bobbobthebob wrote:
Wizav wrote:
MakeNine wrote:Who would have thought alien spacecraft would make exactly the same sound as jet aircraft?


That's actually quite plausible, even a requirement somewhat. Whatever craft they use on there home planet wouldn't work on ours, None of our modern aircraft could fly on mars , venus or mercury even 5000 years from now they couldn't do it. You'd have to design a jet based on that planet. Even if they had super advanced jet engines different to ours they might not work in our atmosphere, Our own jets require oxygen for combustion which means there pretty much useless on any other planet.
...or you could just use rockets as we have for most of our propulsion in atmosphere-less space. You can ignore the chemical make up of an atmosphere if you carry the oxidising agent with you.


They only use rockets for propulsion on take off, 90% of the fuel is used in the first few seconds just to get into space and reach about 25,000 mph and cost's like 2 billion. After that they just float in space at that speed and don't slow down or speed up. Can slingshot off the moon and reach about 40,000-60,000 mph but that's pretty much our top speed. To go faster you'd have to carry millions of tonnes of fuel and have it burning constantly for acceleration, Once you reached your destination and landed you need the same amount of fuel to get back.


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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Canaletto on Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:45 pm

I think you will find that a warp core is needed for proper space travel. Without that you are kinda knackered. :D


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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Gh0st.IRE on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:27 pm

Wizav wrote:
MakeNine wrote:Who would have thought alien spacecraft would make exactly the same sound as jet aircraft?


That's actually quite plausible, even a requirement somewhat. Whatever craft they use on there home planet wouldn't work on ours, None of our modern aircraft could fly on mars , venus or mercury even 5000 years from now they couldn't do it. You'd have to design a jet based on that planet. Even if they had super advanced jet engines different to ours they might not work in our atmosphere, Our own jets require oxygen for combustion which means there pretty much useless on any other planet.

In the future, if we find a new planet with intelligent life, we could spend years working on designs and prototypes for something that could fly on said planet or just study what the locals were using and make a copy. At the very least UFO's spotted on earth will have almost identical wingspan and aerodynamics simply because it's what works.

I doubt space exploration is anything like the movies where one craft can travel everywhere with the same flight performance, much more likely to have one main craft for travelling through space then smaller crafts customized for different planets.

Could the "aliens" not just pump oxygen into the engine for combustion to occur, if it does not exist naturally in the atmosphere. Eg. mars.
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Security on Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:44 pm

Looks like fireworks on a remote controlled airplane.

But technically the term UFO is correct here as it still stands for "unidentified flying object" which this is. :P
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby lockwyn on Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:57 am

Aliens having fun with fireworks on a remote controlled space ship, thats what it is :D
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby BreeZe on Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:00 am

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Sorry I just had to revive this topic with a picture.
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Ccpanther on Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:04 am

Here is two questions:

Governments are trying to fool us with weather balloons and military hardware, to believe that UFO's don't exist ?

or

Governments are been truly honest, and letting us know all there military and technology secrets?

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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Kaelan002 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:42 pm

Or maybe more likely:

Governments don't want the public/other nations to know about their top secret prototype balloon/plane/uav that was just spotted/crashed so they:
a) Encourage the relevant doesn't-look-like-a-conventional-plane-therefore-aliens conspiracy theory.
b) Start said conspiracy theory.
c) Actually attempt to explain what happened at which point people decide they are lying and say its aliens anyway.
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Binerexis on Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:31 pm

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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby BenJy! on Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:26 am

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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Love Muffin on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:36 pm

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I believe Benjy!

But this is not a UFO
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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Wizav on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:12 pm

Kaelan002 wrote:Or maybe more likely:

Governments don't want the public/other nations to know about their top secret prototype balloon/plane/uav that was just spotted/crashed so they:
a) Encourage the relevant doesn't-look-like-a-conventional-plane-therefore-aliens conspiracy theory.
b) Start said conspiracy theory.
c) Actually attempt to explain what happened at which point people decide they are lying and say its aliens anyway.


Those types of arguments aren't future proof though, a top secret prototype doesn't remain so for long. The Stealth bomber was top secret for only a few years and was spotted several times during test flights prior to being officially announced then obvious sightings of it in the past were explained and dealt with.

That doesn't work for things like the Roswell incident where something crashed and we still haven't heard a peep about what it was or why along with the other hundreds of sightings and incidents that have occurred.

All the government has to say is oh those sighting back in 80's were test flights for plane x, but that's only happened a few times in 20-30 years so either they don't know what some of these sightings were or they still have some weird reason for keeping a 20-30 year old plane top secret.

Then there's all the ex-military and civilian commercial flight pilots spotting strange objects and crafts, Public might be confused and not recognize a weather bloom, satellite or jet but i doubt experienced pilots would make such mistakes. They've tracked objects on radar moving at stupid speeds and can't be asteroids or meteors cause they change direction but then everybody lies and making up some ufo story probably earns you some free cash or fame.


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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby FaviousM on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:03 pm

My personal take on the UFO phenomenon (and bits of this can be applied to any other paranormal thing)

So the UFO specific bit. I think there's little doubt that there ARE other intelligent beings in the universe. The maths bares this out. However I believe we've never been visited by this civilizations because the distances are too vast.

The other reason I don't think we've been visited (and this is the bit that applies to anything, ghosts, bigfoot, lake monsters etc) Technology has gotten to the point where SO many people have a camera on them (in the form of a phone or whatever) ALL the time that I think there's no way someone wouldn't have captured decent evidence of any of these phenomena at this stage. Nearly every major global event has a video on youtube before the story has even fully broken on the news channels. If UFOs and other stuff existed, someone would have captures a decent picture or video of them at this point.


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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby Binerexis on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:41 pm

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Re: Incredible UFOs Burn Over Russia? 2011

Postby FaviousM on Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:49 pm

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