Some fine points brought up
Truth be told I do have an ulterior motive for posting this, albeit an innocent one. As stated in the life thread I'm sick of being told what I can and cannot do, I impose no limits on myself other than recognising my skill level and to say a skill cannot be improved without any justification is madness. Your replies have shown me that even though we vary as people, those who are willing to put any thought into anything are ultimately good contributors. A lot of points tie in with eachother and it's really encouraging to hear these kinds of things, especially given what I tend to fight for away from these forums.
Bin - I know exactly what you mean, I have secretly been hoping for such events that would bring about the ultimate choice of band together or die. It's not looking great at the moment though, but as long as we can keep ourselves alive long enough, technology will force mankind into a moral wake-up call. Do you want to stop worrying about capitalism, or do you want everyone to die? Not a hard choice for anyone who isn't ill. Would appreciate it if you did elaborate on any specific points further though
Blame - That's very close to my personal ethos, had destructive religions not taken over the planet we would be much much closer to this ideal, if not having already achieved it. We're living in an age where finite resources are being exploited with blatant disregard while alternatives are being hampered by an artificial construct designed to force us into subordination. Technologically we can be "saved", whether we die before we get there is the key issue in regards to that. In terms of a post-scarcity society I would suggest that everything that can be reproduced shall cost nothing, anything that is non-renewable, as it literally does now, should cost the earth. This is a way down the line in my eyes but not impossible.
Wiz - Some fine points brought up in that video, it's a sore point with me that so many of these projects or movements are often founded on deceit and mis-information. Unfortunately the Venus Project is now impossible as the planet has been pushed too far. Only an abstract breakthrough of unprecedented genius would save it now. A lot of aspects are still relevant and will need to be adopted, the fall of capitalism being one of them. Sadly the dictatorship it mentions is almost a necessity, if only to unite people against a common enemy and fight for what's actually right. While his architects dream takes over the end of the video and abandons the "work with what you've got" ethic it supports a major redesign of how we live is massively overdue.
Flare - I agree with almost all of your points. Ideally a truly moral society would enforce swift and just punishment, not the arbitrary "go sit in the corner and think about what you've done" that we have now but detatched, impartial recompense for all aggrieved parties. It may seem a little naive now, but it's not impossible. We've imposed an artificial limiter on ourselves in terms of our trading system, our wealth will amount to nothing if it's only used to control our behaviour and stifle progress.
Dargen - I understand the point you're trying to make, but as Wiz said, being detached from one emotion would make its opposite either more prevalent or illogical. I would say that it's not that we need to remove negative stimuli, we just need a perceptual shift. We're living in an age of exponential improvement and as more people understand our situation the "crunch time" get closer. When enough people see sense the world will have no option but to change, the alternative is to be forgotten, defeated by our own arrogance before we ever really soared and no logical mind wants that.
Truth be told I was expecting a few of these points to be made, as well as the tone and manner of their delivery. I believe if everyone "was given" this question we'd likely all come to a unanimous agreement that the way we do things is stupid and that the way forward is a nurturing society with selfless beliefs. I can see how religions have tackled this same plight but due to the nature of communication when they were founded, the disjointed nature of a multilingual planet and the individual input of toxic human beings they have failed dramatically, bringing about the opposite of what they no doubt set out to achieve. So on that note I will leave my opinion on all matters in the form of an excerpt from a religious angle on humanity: "Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill – an ye harm none, do what ye will". Had this prevailed through persecution and spread the same way its oppressors did, the world would be unimaginably different. Speculation is useless in this regard, but I can't see that allowing us to break our species or our planet no matter which way it evolves.
Don't discount your dreams people, you're never alone with them.