Listen to this one and tell me how absurd this is.
I know I often sound grumpy and assholish on mumble (while I truly am not but that's another story), but I was raised with the value that a man should be chivalrous to ladies. For example, I give my seat to a girl on the bus if she has to stand, I hold doors open, I'll give my sweater to a girl if she's cold, I would defend a woman if she gets bothered by some drunkard in a bar or whatever, etc. I was simply raised to be like that.
One girl once told me recently that it's macho to be like this. Because by being like this, apparently you see the woman as an inferior being that needs the help of men. So, apparently, being chivalrous is being a macho. Great...
Then, when I was discussing this with someone else, a guy this time, he said that I'm being a stereotype Nice Guy by doing this. You know what we mean with Nice Guys right? A Nice Guy, stereotypically, is a guy who will become a woman's doormat and little pet and be overly nice just in the hopes he can get in her pants.
Like Safire once said in I don't remember what thread: "women aren't machines that you put niceness coins in till sex comes out". Well Nice Guys do exactly that: be nice to a girl so he can hopefully get some sex in return.
I'm not like this. If I'm chivalrous, it's because I just think it's the way a mean should treat a woman. My parents, more specifically my mother, just raised me like this. I don't hold doors open nor do I help a girl carry her heavy package because I'm a doormat or because I want her to strip down and give me sex afterwards (sorry for being vulgar). I do this because I'm a good person... that's all.
At work, when I help a girl carry a heavy ass printer to another room, my colleagues just say idiocies like "*gigglegiggle* you hope to score with her". Can a man not be chivalrous to women any more without everyone assuming you're secretly just trying to find your way into her pants?
What do you think? And ladies, if you would like to share the woman's perspective on this, please, be my guest.