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Re: Obesitas

Postby Flare on Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:19 pm

re# Skilgannon wrote:
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I say educate rather than dictate, are we not human can we not think ?

*snip*

Her type should be forced onto a re-hab clinic and fed only vegetables while doing various exercise activities... instead of surgery.

Educate, not dictate.



anyone else see the HUGE self contradiction here?

How is someone being FORCED into a re-had clinic education?


I missed this comment sorry...

That part was more or less an exaggeration, however wouldn't you think its more educational to attend a rehab and healthy diet / exercise regime over a surgical procedure to cure the stupidity of living on take away , junk food and ready meals AND then complaining the stuff makes them fat ?

I get irritable with what I am hearing from government these days... tax junk food to combat obesity and raise booze prices to combat under aged drinking issues... all I hear is make people pay more money for these stuff, this isn't solutions its more like cash grabs.

Want to stop obesity ? Subsidise gyms through the NHS and post pamphlets about the calories in popular junk foods and advise on what's better to eat / fast to prepare / alternative to the usual junk.... novel idea that, pamphlets with useful advice instead of the usual ad junk.
Want to stop this under aged drinking issue ? Take away the licence to sell alcohol from general stores and super markets and make said licence only available to shops that specialise in selling alcohol... then make these shops responsible for age checking (supermarkets like ASDA , Tesco, ect can still have a alcohol store in their mega stores just as a completely separate store within a store). This reduces casual picking up of booze as you shop and reduces the effectiveness of low priced booze as a draw to the shop, results in roughly the same effect without slapping on 'moar taxes'.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby re# Skilgannon on Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:14 pm

time is THE most important thing

I get up at 5am, sort my cats and dog out, get my son up, nag him repeatedly to get ready for school, prepare a light breakfast, maybe eat half given the time, leave the house at 06.45am, drop my son at a friends so he can catch the school bus at 07.30, drive anything from 45 mins (if traffic clear) to 2 hours to work, work 9 hours with a 30 min break, get in car, repeat journey but in opposite direction, get home at about 6pm if lucky, cook dinner, sort out cats and dog, supervise homework, nag son to go to bed before falling into bed myself

where am I supposed to fit exercise into that?
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Security on Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:13 pm

Walking the dog for 30+ minutes at a time would actually be considered a pretty acceptable exercise. Also many of my colleagues go for a walk for there lunch break which helps and is pretty nice as long as it isn't raining.

Also from personal experience I can say that you actually have more energy after working out especially if you were feeling tired (also I sleep so much better as well during the nights after I worked out).

If you really have trouble finding the time then trying to fit it in with things you are doing anyway like lunch is very effective.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby re# Skilgannon on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:12 am

my dog is 15 years old and arthritic, she cant walk to for 30 mins and I work my lunch break :P
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Snowbat on Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:55 am

re# Skilgannon wrote:time is THE most important thing

I get up at 5am, sort my cats and dog out, get my son up, nag him repeatedly to get ready for school, prepare a light breakfast, maybe eat half given the time, leave the house at 06.45am, drop my son at a friends so he can catch the school bus at 07.30, drive anything from 45 mins (if traffic clear) to 2 hours to work, work 9 hours with a 30 min break, get in car, repeat journey but in opposite direction, get home at about 6pm if lucky, cook dinner, sort out cats and dog, supervise homework, nag son to go to bed before falling into bed myself

where am I supposed to fit exercise into that?

You walk your dog and seem to have an active lifestyle. If you watch your food a little, it should be enough.
I was referring to those people who do have time, are too lazy and then, while gobbling down a big bag of chips, ask me how I manage to stay in shape.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby re# Skilgannon on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:03 pm

no, I dont walk my dog, she has problems getting down the garden for a wee these days lol

and my job involves sitting on my bum for 9 hours hence why I am a size 20,


my love of bacon sandwiches and beer could also have a little to do with it ;)

tbh I am comfortable with my size and no one is going to force ME into a "rehab" clinic :P
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Binerexis on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:31 pm

re# Skilgannon wrote:tbh I am comfortable with my size and no one is going to force ME into a "rehab" clinic :P


I would LOVE to see that as a reality TV show; just people trying to force you to go to one of those weird weight loss clinics. Don't move, I'm on the phone with Channel 4 as we speak.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Flare on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:34 pm

Well you dont want to sue junk food outlets for your weight , you know where it came from whereas the ones I think aught to take a rehab are either too stupid to realise or are trying to milk the outlets for cash.

Like I said , I have a bit of a beer belly but I aint suing the beer makers for it I know how and why I got it and accept it as my fault and to be honest it doesnt bother me.

What bothers me is those who do not want to take responsibility and rather have the government put in systems to remove the need to actually take responsibility.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby re# Skilgannon on Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:36 pm

Binerexis wrote:
re# Skilgannon wrote:tbh I am comfortable with my size and no one is going to force ME into a "rehab" clinic :P


I would LOVE to see that as a reality TV show; just people trying to force you to go to one of those weird weight loss clinics. Don't move, I'm on the phone with Channel 4 as we speak.



sod off :P
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Dauntless on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:19 pm

What would be nice is more help for people who struggle to put weight on, even better they should tax healthy food to stop us skinny people from wasting away!
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Security on Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:45 pm

Snowbat wrote:You walk your dog and seem to have an active lifestyle. If you watch your food a little, it should be enough.

That depends on the person, take me for example if getting fat was considered a skill then I would be called gifted.
I normally eat only healthy and small to normal portions (yes people LAN time is pretty much the only time of the year I just do whatever food wise) but have to do 3x as much exercise as the average person to simply keep my current weight.
And on top of that I have an office job (AKA I sit on my bum most of the day) which does not help in this aspect at all.

Dauntless wrote:What would be nice is more help for people who struggle to put weight on, even better they should tax healthy food to stop us skinny people from wasting away!

I have a colleague like that, he has been trying to put on weight for 2 years now but it seems impossible for him to do so, he has the same office job, eats for 4 people and yet doesn't manage to gain an ounce in all that time. He had special diets and everything... Life isn't fair. :P
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Re: Obesitas

Postby re# Skilgannon on Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:04 pm

ho ho ho

size 20

blood pressure of 127/95

cholesterol level of 4.9

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Re: Obesitas

Postby just annoying boo on Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:55 pm

I am afraid I am over weight, enjoy my beer and takeaways too much!
Will change my diet soon to extend my lifesave some money^^ - Happy with the way I am - I just was not made to be slim and 6 packed :) :D
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Silkie on Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:30 pm

It's always possible to lose weight and frankly even age is no barrier IF you want it badly enough. I'm 47 and to date from my all time low point I've shed 77 pounds and gone down to a size 34 waist which for a man of 6'3" is pretty good. I didn't need a gym membership, weight watchers or a personal trainer just the will to do it and the support of friends and family to keep encouraging me.

The odd part is I'm actually eating better than I ever have done as when I cut out the junk food I discovered lots of new things to eat that are healthier for me as well as being much tastier. I even rediscovered my love of cooking along the way and the joy of having a much wider choice of clothing as well. The health benefits for me include the end of my insomnia which had been plaguing me for years and a more positive mental attitude which has made me a happier more pleasant person to be around.

The thing is though I don't think you can really push somebody into it unless they are going to make the effort themselves so really I'd say encourage rather than legislate. I live in an area of England that's so bad for health issues you can't actually seem to go any distance without meeting somebody with a diabetes related leg amputation or teetering on a mobility scooter. I took it as a warning and changed.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby Little_Devil on Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:22 am

A lot of statements are true, and I agree this is just another con, with a cradle to grave tax.

It is the usual Government rubbish that tries to make it look as if they are doing something for the public, whilst hiding the fact that they are lobbied incessantly by one group/body or another.

Hmm what would look good to the public, or how can we get newspapers to jump on a story, that makes a certain group of people look bad, and promotes Government and makes it look as if they are doing something good, and either save money, or get more money in from the slave population, sorry general public.

I know, we get some official reports together linking the obesity in adults as stemming from childhood Obesitas, by saying kids we give all the overweight adults an out, and we can levy another tax, which will effect the parents.
The Government already know that putting a tax on certain food stuffs is not going to work, but they have the backing of those who can nod in agreement, like those little nodding dogs you see, as if they are actually doing something for the populace.
Kill two birds with one stone, sooth the public wrath and avoid the issues from the very companies that have lobbied parliament to not tax them for putting crap in your food.

Well we have had and continue to have the public on side with those nasty people the benefit scroungers, who have paid into a system in many cases, don't forget these are the baby boomers, for 20+ years, to be told when they need help to get lost they are scroungers.

Now we have a fat tax levied on these same people, for making sure there siblings and grand-children get treats they never had access to, and get the public on side by saying they are doing something for them again.

I would say welcome to the slave market, but at least slaves know they are slaves, the general population are much worse than this, they are still slaves its just that they are either dim witted enough to have the wool pulled over their eyes, realise and no longer care, or as many you see, are depressed over such rubbish.
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Re: Obesitas

Postby rgslane the trackpad on Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:13 pm

'wake up, sheeple'
a fat tax won't affect you that much if you don't eat excessively unhealthily


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