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is this PC worth while?....

Postby bubba on Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:08 pm

im a lazy PC person so buy from some1 who makes em up etc..

i was goin 2 spend chit loads but then remembered i was buyign a house :P so is this PC good....


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Postby Death on Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:14 pm

looks the stuff. got nice set u tbh but 2k. thats alot dude.

ask sum1 who knows more about comps but that looks the stuff
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Postby Dysfuncti1 on Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:05 pm

Do alienware make ram? If they do avoid it as it will be overpriced. I'd go with Corsair Value Select RAM, 2 sticks of 512 MB PC3200/DDR400.


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Postby Junglist on Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:27 am

:shock: TWO GRAND?!!!! :shock:

Dude, your getting ripped off, big time. Me myself yes i could build you that and personally deliver it to your house by limo for that! (over the top?) :lol:

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Postby Ace of Spades on Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:21 pm

Dude 2 grand quite a lot for that. Wouldnt of fort it wud be easy to upgrade ram. 4 x 512. 2gb shud be enuff but u neva know.

Go to a local specialist or ask ur m8's if there is an IT Technician where they work who could give u a price for this set up.
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Postby MR.SPOON on Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:44 pm

2k is way to expensive


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Postby EasyTiger on Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:52 pm

MR.SPOON wrote:2k is way to expensive


Certainly if you're just going to play 1.6 ;)

If you're planning on creating a short animation movie however, i'd say it was good for that ;)
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Postby FetidPolyp on Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:38 pm

hell for 2k I'd be after at least an fx55
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Postby Ace of Spades on Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:54 am

FX 55 **Drules**
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Re: is this PC worth while?....

Postby Little_Devil on Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:38 pm

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Re: is this PC worth while?....

Postby Dysfuncti1 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:16 am

Little_Devil wrote:160GB Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA 7200rpm w/ 8MB Cache
To be honest I would not get 1 HDD but 2 smaller drives.OTT


Why not just partition a bigger drive, it will increase search time on a single drive?

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Re: is this PC worth while?....

Postby Little_Devil on Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:53 pm

Dysfuncti1 wrote:
Little_Devil wrote:160GB Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA 7200rpm w/ 8MB Cache
To be honest I would not get 1 HDD but 2 smaller drives.OTT


Why not just partition a bigger drive, it will increase search time on a single drive?

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If 1 HDD fails you have not lost everything + defrag on a large drive takes a lot of time. The main windows drive is the most likely candidate for failure, due to windows temp files and cache being on this drive.

Most of the time you will only need to defrag the main drive to get things runnning smoothly again.

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Postby bubba on Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:37 pm

lol @ HD for Porn alone :twisted:
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Postby bubba on Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:48 pm

tbh this is the new PC that ive seen and most likely gonna get :S costing
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Re: is this PC worth while?....

Postby Dysfuncti1 on Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:35 pm

Little_Devil wrote:
Dysfuncti1 wrote:
Little_Devil wrote:160GB Seagate Barracuda Serial ATA 7200rpm w/ 8MB Cache
To be honest I would not get 1 HDD but 2 smaller drives.OTT
If 1 HDD fails you have not lost everything + defrag on a large drive takes a lot of time. The main windows drive is the most likely candidate for failure, due to windows temp files and cache being on this drive.
Most of the time you will only need to defrag the main drive to get things runnning smoothly again


This is the whole point of partitioning. Firstly you OS can be on a separate partition so that if it goes tits up you dont need to loose all you video music and game files, just wipe and clean install the OS. You can also Run a backup OS such as windows ME in case of Failure.
Defragmenting times are reduced because all your active data and active application files are on different drives (your active data files become fragmented more frequently).
If your harddrive completely goes tits up and dies from static or whatever then your just unlucky but there is no point buying a separate harddrive to perform the function of a simple partition.
It also provides security against virus's that may infect one partition, and it also allows the paging file to be placed in it's own partition which will eliminate the fragmentation problem of the system drive when the paging file is constantly resized due to varying virtual memory requirements.


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Re: is this PC worth while?....

Postby Little_Devil on Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:23 pm

Defragmenting times are reduced because all your active data and active application files are on different drives (your active data files become fragmented more frequently).


Don't make Assumptions, thats the whole point. Variable Data on 1 drive, Static Data on Second.

If your harddrive completely goes tits up and dies from static or whatever then your just unlucky but there is no point buying a separate harddrive to perform the function of a simple partition.

Yet another assumption, 1 HDD moves the heads for reading the discs as one, no matter how many partitions are on the Drive.

It also provides security against virus's that may infect one partition, and it also allows the paging file to be placed in it's own partition which will eliminate the fragmentation problem of the system drive when the paging file is constantly resized due to varying virtual memory requirements.

I am afraid that you go too far with this one, Bubba will install his OS on a HDD and will probably not want to mess around with the paging file.

The whole point in having 2 drives is that they are then 2 independant physical devices. A drive with either a single or multiple partitions is still only a single physical device which is more prone to failure(mtbf) than 2 seperate drives.

I have had people come to me, and said when their drive failed, 'well I can't have lost everything can I, after all I partitioned my Drive'. guess what the answer is as you look at a drive with its bearings shot.


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Re: is this PC worth while?....

Postby Dysfuncti1 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:45 am

Little_Devil wrote:
Don't make Assumptions


I wan't making assumptions, you said that a big drive takes longer to defrag, I was explaining that this is not true on a partitioned drive, and offering some more information.


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Postby Dysfuncti1 on Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:54 am

I don't disagree with your point about two physical drives it is a safer way, but hopefully both drives recieve partitions :D


That system is FAR better ee btw we are going off topic here.


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Postby Little_Devil on Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:49 am

Dysfuncti1 wrote:I don't disagree with your point about two physical drives it is a safer way, but hopefully both drives recieve partitions :D


That system is FAR better ee btw we are going off topic here.


Sorry just trying not to confuse people as to my reasoning.

Bubba that new system looks the bees what nots. :D

Err dare I ask, where from?


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Postby bubba on Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:29 am

Little_Devil wrote:
Dysfuncti1 wrote:I don't disagree with your point about two physical drives it is a safer way, but hopefully both drives recieve partitions :D


That system is FAR better ee btw we are going off topic here.


Sorry just trying not to confuse people as to my reasoning.

Bubba that new system looks the bees what nots. :D

Err dare I ask, where from?


www.meshcomputers.com

was planing on doin a finance thing with em, but their being totals tw@s bout it lol been emailing askin to help me and explain it but NOOOOO they dont lol wonder if any1 here can help :P

this is what it says....


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Take advantage of nothing to pay and no interest for 6 months. At the end of the 6-month period, you're in control and you can choose to pay the balance and pay no interest at all or spread the cost by monthly payments of 4% of the outstanding balance or
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