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Postby Pr0digal on Tue May 10, 2005 7:37 pm

Im planning to get a new computer soon but me being a computer n00bie im not to sure on which one to get. Ive found one that i like but im not sure how well it would handle CS or even CS:S (e.g. crashing) its got:-

Intel Pentium 4 Processor 530
3.00GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1Mb Cache
1024Mb DDR RAM
160 Gb Hard Drive
Multi Format Dual Layer DVD RW + DVD ROM
128Mb ATi Radeon 9250 Graphics
Wireless Keyboard and mouse
6-in-1 card reader, 6 x USB 2.0
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
17" TFT Monitor

If anyone has any imput on this it would be really helpful.
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Postby EvolvedMonkey on Tue May 10, 2005 8:42 pm

Stay away from the Intel.....dont look into the shite carol ann.
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Postby Psychic Duck on Tue May 10, 2005 8:55 pm

EvolvedMonkey wrote:Stay away from the Intel.....dont look into the shite carol ann.


nothing wrong with intel, just dont get the new ones
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Postby The_Pope on Tue May 10, 2005 9:08 pm

tbh, amd ownz intel, and id have another look at the gfx card on that, how much is it costing?
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Postby LuckyNV on Tue May 10, 2005 9:13 pm

CPU is "ok" but AMD is better on the pocket AND is faster at gaming to boot, definitely a better graphics card, R9250 is a total joke only to be used as a door stop or office work, even with todays games it is an absolute pain to use.

its fine for CS (then again, even a GF2MX from 1999 is fine for CS) but not CS:S.

that computer looks a bit OEM built... so I assume you are unable to confidently build a machine yourself, its ok, but try get a better card, I'm sure they'll limit your options so post back with what options they give.
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Postby La Chavvy on Tue May 10, 2005 9:24 pm

Note Prodgial,

X64 Windows is coming soon, you might want to plan ahead!


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Postby Ace of Spades on Tue May 10, 2005 9:38 pm

Would be a LOT better with AMD 64 m8.

Also that Ati 9250, what are you thinking of? if your paying more than £300 for this (+ 100 for TFT) then stay away. Get a m8 to build a AMD 64 system or if you wrok in an IT place or go to school pop into the Techy Room and ask if they can do ya something.
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Postby Pr0digal on Tue May 10, 2005 11:58 pm

lol tbh all this computer stuff goes right over my head. I did a serch for that AMD 64 and found another comp.

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor
320 Gb HDD, 512 Mb Ram
Multi-Format Dual Layer DVDRW Drive
ATI Radeon Xpress 200 IGP Graphics Card
8-In-1 Media Card Reader
On Board LAN Network
6 Channel Audio Onboard Sound Card
17" TFT Advent Monitor
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
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Postby LuckyNV on Wed May 11, 2005 2:45 am

again, with the problem of buying from OEMs, they have a nice processor, big HDD and TFT but fk all else, IMO 1GB RAM is minimum, and that GFX is onboard and very very very crap.
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Postby La Chavvy on Wed May 11, 2005 5:50 am

Prod,

How much was that set up?

The rig im building costs around 700 ish:

AMD 64 3700 San Diego
1024 mb @ PC3200
Nvidia 6800 GT
Thermaltake 480watt
ASUS A8V Deluxe Rev 2
NEC Dual layer dvd-writer
120 GB SATA HDD
[With case]


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Postby Pr0digal on Wed May 11, 2005 6:17 am

They were both £699. The prob is i dont really know how to build comps my self or i dont have anymates who know. btw whats OEM mean?
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Postby TC on Wed May 11, 2005 6:29 am

OEM basically means Original format from manufacturer or basically not in a flash box like you would see on a shop shelf. These are cheaper versions of products as its bypassing the "Glossy" stage products go through when they have to appeal as eye candy, but the same product underneath.


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Postby La Chavvy on Wed May 11, 2005 8:38 am

OEM is just the product.

No manuals, no fancy box, usually no wiring, just the raw product in a carboard box with some foam. [may have manuals but usually not or installation disc]


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Postby EasyTiger on Wed May 11, 2005 9:47 am

Shame you need to get one pre-built, because for £600 you could get these compatible parts to build a system:

>AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB, BOXED w/fan
>2 x TwinMOS Speed Premium PC3500 512MB CL2.5 Winbond BH-5, 32*8/16chip, 433mhz, 184-P
>Fortron/Source Powersupply ATX 400W rev2 120mm, SATA Special Edition, 24pin
>Samsung SpinPoint P80S 120GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM
>EPoX EP-9NPA+, nForce4 ,ATX, Socket-939 S-ATA, GbLAN, Firewire, PCI-Express X16
>Cooler Master Cavalier 3 case Black Aluminium (Without PSU)
> Club3D GeForce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express, VGA, DVI, Tv-Out, Retail
> NEC DVD recorder ND-3520A IDE White Bulk,DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW (Dual layer)

I'm struggling to find a decent deal on a built PC.
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Postby LuckyNV on Wed May 11, 2005 9:51 am

hmmmm
there is OEM from retailers/Etailers and then there is OEM built.

the former means when you purchase the product, it will arrive in a plain box and usually just on its own i.e. no cables, driver CD, manual etc...
some instances it might come with something though.

OEM built are computers assembled by companies from components bought in bulk like Dell, Mesh, Tiny etc...

Generally OEM built computers are powerful in 1 aspect but weak in another like strong CPU but weak GPU, for the same price you could build yourself a much more rounded computer.
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Postby SupaSharpShoota on Wed May 11, 2005 11:47 am

EasyTiger wrote:Shame you need to get one pre-built, because for £600 you could get these compatible parts to build a system:

>AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB, BOXED w/fan
>2 x TwinMOS Speed Premium PC3500 512MB CL2.5 Winbond BH-5, 32*8/16chip, 433mhz, 184-P
>Fortron/Source Powersupply ATX 400W rev2 120mm, SATA Special Edition, 24pin
>Samsung SpinPoint P80S 120GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM
>EPoX EP-9NPA+, nForce4 ,ATX, Socket-939 S-ATA, GbLAN, Firewire, PCI-Express X16
>Cooler Master Cavalier 3 case Black Aluminium (Without PSU)
> Club3D GeForce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express, VGA, DVI, Tv-Out, Retail
> NEC DVD recorder ND-3520A IDE White Bulk,DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW (Dual layer)

I'm struggling to find a decent deal on a built PC.



Where is that deal from Tiger?
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Postby LuckyNV on Wed May 11, 2005 1:40 pm

SupaSharpShoota wrote:
EasyTiger wrote:Shame you need to get one pre-built, because for £600 you could get these compatible parts to build a system:

>AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB, BOXED w/fan
>2 x TwinMOS Speed Premium PC3500 512MB CL2.5 Winbond BH-5, 32*8/16chip, 433mhz, 184-P
>Fortron/Source Powersupply ATX 400W rev2 120mm, SATA Special Edition, 24pin
>Samsung SpinPoint P80S 120GB SATA 8MB 7200RPM
>EPoX EP-9NPA+, nForce4 ,ATX, Socket-939 S-ATA, GbLAN, Firewire, PCI-Express X16
>Cooler Master Cavalier 3 case Black Aluminium (Without PSU)
> Club3D GeForce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express, VGA, DVI, Tv-Out, Retail
> NEC DVD recorder ND-3520A IDE White Bulk,DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW (Dual layer)

I'm struggling to find a decent deal on a built PC.



Where is that deal from Tiger?


its individual parts
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Postby Pr0digal on Wed May 11, 2005 3:59 pm

well would the first one be any better if i get a 1024Mb Ram and got a better Grathics card fitted?

*EdIt*
Just went on to Steam and found this. To me it just looks like the grathics card i need to change.....im probably wrong though :oops:

What will the system requirements be for Counter-Strike: Source?

Min:
1.2 GHz Processor
256MB RAM
DirectX 7 graphics card
Windows 2000/XP/ME/98
Mouse
Keyboard


Preferred:
2.4 GHz ProcessorB 512MB RAM
DirectX 9 graphics card
Windows 2000/XP
Mouse
Keyboard
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Postby La Chavvy on Wed May 11, 2005 4:11 pm

Not sure about that, I have 256 mb ram and 8500 ATI, not a good combination to say the least.

Have you considering getting an APPLE pc? So you can get Apple : Sauce

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Postby TuPac on Wed May 11, 2005 6:57 pm

Whats that I see..........a tumbleweed rolling by.........lol
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