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Postby Mez on Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:13 pm

Hey,

I need to get myself a new computer that is capable of being able to play all the top games on full and obviously run css on full.

I have NO intention of building one myself so am looking for a complete unit. My budget is flexible but ideally I would like £500-£700 max. I have tried the usual websites but my technical knowledge has fallen off a cliff in the last few years so would appreciate some input. I am also not aware of any new independent websites that may be able to provide a high end computer for a low price.

Thanks in advance!


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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:20 pm

Just looking on dinoPC - would the below spec (if I could raise some more funds) be worthwhile for money?





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CPU: NEW! Intel Core i5 2500K @ 4.3Ghz


Included





CPU Cooler: Xigmatek HDT-S963


Included





Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit


Included





Motherboard: NEW! Asus P8Z68-V LX


Included





Memory: 8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance (2x4GB)


£25.00





Hard Drives: NEW! 1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s


£4.70





Optical Drive: 22x DVD±RW DL S-ATA


Included





Graphics card: 2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB


£66.20





Sound card: Onboard 7.1 Audio


Included





Internet: Wireless 802.11N 300Mbps MIMO PCI card


£22.99





Keyboard and mouse: Keyboard, mouse and speakers


£13.99





Speakers: Logitech S220


£19.99





Headphones and Headsets: Creative HS-600 Headset


£24.99





Monitors: 23.6" Widescreen LCD


£119.99





Case: Zalman Z9 Plus


Included





PSU: NEW! 600W Xigmatek


£6.90





Warranty: 3 Year Platinum Warranty


Included










Product Subtotal:

£966.56


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Re: New Computer

Postby Lord Talan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:15 am

Hi Mez,

haven't you just blown your own budget?

But have you tried aria and overclockers etc?

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Re: New Computer

Postby syco cocker on Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:28 am

The price with all the warranty etc is not to bad.
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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:59 am

Overclockers was more expensive but will look at Aria. I know I've blown my budget but it is worth it and I have the money so it's fine. Just means tesco value for a few months lol.

Syco - thanks for that. Just want reassurance I'm not paying through the nose.


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Re: New Computer

Postby TheKrumpet on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:12 pm

Working through your list:

i5 2500K - Good choice. Fantastic bang for buck, however if you don't want to overclock you can just get the standard 2500. It does seem to be pre-overclocked if it's running at 4.3GHz

Xigmatek HDT-S963 - No personal experience. Reviews seem generally favourable.

Asus P8Z68-V LX - Apparently also pretty good bang-for-buck. You need a Z68-based board for overclocking (EDIT: Apparently I'm behind the times and this is no longer necessary). Apparently the multi GPU support isn't great, which brings me onto....

2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB - The motherboard doesn't support SLI. Whoever decided then that putting two GTX 550s in was a good idea needs their head checking. On top of that, it's always better to get a more powerful single card over 2 in SLI, owing to driver issues/poor support. Go for a single 560Ti or a 570 if you can stretch to it.

Memory: 8GB Corsair 1600mhz Vengeance - Should be plenty. No issues with this.

1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s - Doesn't specify a whole lot. 1TB is big enough, whether or not it's a decent drive or not can't really be told.

The system's a pretty good high-end one (apart from the silly GPU choice on their part). Worth the price? Probably not, you can probably get it cheaper from elsewhere. I'll go have a look around and post back here soon. However, as noted above free warranty is kind of nice. But bear in mind that most PC parts come with a warranty.
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Re: New Computer

Postby syco cocker on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:23 pm

The board as said does not support Sli but it does support the ati multi gpu so you could change to ati cards but as said by the other poster you would be better off with one good nvidia card I know thats what I would have.
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Re: New Computer

Postby raptor2009 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:26 pm

i have just bought the Asus P8Z68-V LX and an i5 2500k, the board itself will overclock the the i5, i have it at 4.5 ghz on air and it never goes over 60c.
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Re: New Computer

Postby TheKrumpet on Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Alright, after shopping around:

CPU: i5 2500K OEM
Probably the best high-end bang-for-buck processor. Fantastic at stock and overclocks brilliantly. Note: This is the OEM version , so it won't come with fancy packaging or a stock cooler. It will literally be a processor in a small plastic box, but it should shave some money off.
Price: £164.58

Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V LX
I'm a little behind in the world of motherboards, but this certainly seems like a very capable board, and it has an in-thread endorsement.
Price: £89.98

RAM: 8GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
DDR3 is so cheap at the moment there's no reason to not get 8GB. Generally speaking there's no performance delta between different RAM of the same speed/timings, so you can swap this out for a different set, but these are fine.
Price: £39.74

GPU: MSI GTX 560Ti
The 560Ti is a very capable card for the price point, should play everything you throw at it at a decent resolution. You can add a little money on (roughly £30) and double the memory it has available, which you'll probably only notice in more intensive games but it's an option. Alternatively you can spend just under £250 and get a faster one.
Price: £169.87

Cooler: Gelid Tranquillo Rev2
Good air cooler. This one is open to replacement but it's very good at £25
Price: £25.18

Case: Fractal Design Define R3
Again, open to be changed out, but it's really, really good for the price. Really this choice depends on whether you can deal with a case with a door on the front. Also available in white if you want your PC to imitate a fridge.
Price: £73.14

HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda
Good drive, good price considering the recent inflation in mechanical HDD costs.
Price: £71.87

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM
Standard choice for most people. Again OEM so no fancy packaging, but it's not really worth the extra cost.
Price: £70.88

DVD Drive: Some Random Sony Drive
Any DVD drive will do. To be honest you only really need it for installing the OS but it can burn DVDs which is always useful.
Price: £15.82

Cost for core: £721.06 (unless I'm adding up wrong).

This is a very capable computer for around £700. Note that it doesn't have the peripherals (speakers, keyboard etc) that the one you specced do but you can probably fit them in and still be under £1k.

EDIT: Forgot the PSU.
PSU: Corsair TX650
Should be sufficient for this setup
Cost: £66.53

This does bring the total up to £787.58, so I'll try and shave some money off.

ANOTHER EDIT: Just noticed you want a pre-built. I should read the OP more carefully. In that case, then the dinoPC system is pretty good, minus the GPU choice. I would definitely stick at least a GTX 560Ti in it.

http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ is probably the only system builder I can recommend that you might not have tried.

http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ConfigureSystem.asp?SystemID=1346 < This is pretty much the same as the system I specified. Again it has no speakers, mouse/keyboard and screen etc. but it's a good prebuilt option.
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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:00 pm

Wow. Thank you for all the comprehensive posts - really appreciate it.

Would like custom built and I know you can select your own parts. Based on the above, dinopc still appear to be the best option.

Will try and build to the configs above and see what appears.


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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:08 pm

Changed to the recommendations above and have included the single 560Ti 1GB.

Seems like I need to spend around £950 in order to get the kind of computer I'm looking for. I don't want to go for £700 then have to spend the same again in 2-3 years time.

If I get the above I'm hoping it will last 4-5 years.


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Re: New Computer

Postby TheKrumpet on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:25 pm

In all honesty, the only upgrade you'll probably be looking at in that kind of timeframe is maybe a new GPU in a few years time. That's simply because graphics technology moves so fast it's not actually possible to future-proof. That being said the 560Ti can run anything on the market currently and you'll probably get a good life out of it. But that CPU/Motherboard/RAM will certainly last you for a very long time (especially with the free speed you can get by overclocking the 2500K).

Certainly worth buying a decent PC in one go rather than a budget one you have to upgrade constantly.
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Re: New Computer

Postby MotsMan on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:40 pm

My dad got a PC from pcspecialist a couple of years ago. Still runs perfectly well, not sure if it would be cheaper but it may be worth a look.
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Re: New Computer

Postby raptor2009 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:47 pm

I forgot to enlighten you with this http://www.lucidlogix.com/product-virtu-gpu.html your board and processor will run this flawlessly it comes on the install cd for your board, in tf2 maxed out my frame rates never drop below 120 however they still have to work out a few bugs on the more up to date games. But nevertheless it still looks very promising.
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Re: New Computer

Postby ApacheFlame on Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:30 pm

I'd be surprised if he hasn't PM'd you, but I know one of our members runs a PC building company. You may be able to get the few £ saving whilst still having the reassurance of a professionally built machine? PM me if you want their contact details :)

Caveat being that although I am sure everything would be peachy I haven't bought a PC from him before.

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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:08 pm

Would appreciate the details, Apache :)

Yeah I have resigned myself to the fact that I need to spend more in the short term to save in the long term.


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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:11 pm

MotsMan wrote:My dad got a PC from pcspecialist a couple of years ago. Still runs perfectly well, not sure if it would be cheaper but it may be worth a look.


Just looked - it is more expensive for less than DinoPC. I can get a higher end machine with all the extras for about £50 less!!

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Re: New Computer

Postby Deathtaker27 on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:37 pm

have you looked at:

Scan.co.uk

CCLonline.com

these two do pre-builts and scan do overclocked / component bundles where you just put it together
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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:32 pm

Same as the above - attempted to build a similar system and the price is higher.

Looks like DinoPC will be the best option, tweaking it to include the single gfx card.


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Re: New Computer

Postby Mez on Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:24 pm

Right. Thanks to an extremely well appreciated and helpful member of our community (thank you apacheflame for the recommendation) I have opted on the below.

Intel Core i5-2500K 4.30Ghz (cpu) 1

Asus P8H67 R3 H67 Socket 1155 8 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard 1

Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333Mhz Ballistix Sport Memory Kit CL9 1.5V 1

Asus GTX 560 DCII TOP 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card 1

XFX 650W Black Edition Modular PSU 1

Casecom K5-9388 Black Case with Blue LED 120mm Front Fan 1

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 1155 Heatpipe CPU Cooler 1

Artic Silver 5 thermal compound 1

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1

Samsung 22x DVD±RW Optical Drive - Black 1

WD 1TB Caviar Blue SATA-III 3.5" Hard Drive 1

ACER G245HQtbid 23.6" LCD HDMI Monitor 1

Microsoft Wired Desktop 400 Keyboard and Mouse for Business - USB 1

Logitech S220 2.1 Speakers 1

Tenda Wireless-N300 PCI Adapter

Personally I think this computer will be the dogs. Definately the best I have ever owned by far.


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