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Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:34 pm
by EWJ
Ok i need help in spec'ing the best value pc I can get for £500.

Not concerned about intel/amd/nvidia bias. Need case,cpu,gpu,psu,HDD and memory. Basically whats the best i can get for that amount. Have all the peripherals.

Cheers in advance.

Jim.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:07 pm
by Ragonz
Your going to struggle to get a midrange gaming pc for £500, gfx card and cpu alone will set you back more than 60-70% of that

Unless you go I3/Nvidia GTX550Ti and possibly a less than trustworthy brand of psu its a far shot. This is the closest i could get to your budget and still have a sensible mid range gaming pc.

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Keeping to your budget this is probably the best you can get, you might be able to squeeze in a slightly better gfx card by lowering quality/speed/power on the ram/psu but id advise against that

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Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:27 pm
by Semaphia
Can save £40 on a motherboard by buying H61.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8h ... oem-%28bro

Means dropping down to 1333Mhz ram, but there's no real point going for a Z77 board without a chip to OC. You can probably meet somewhere in the middle if you wanted DDR3 1600 without paying for a Z77.

As good as the cooler is, you can get away just fine by using the retail Intel cooler. If you're not OCing, it does the job perfectly.

With the £60 saved, I'd go for a branded PSU:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-cor ... an-atx-psu
And a 7850:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-giga ... free-games

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:33 pm
by Ragonz
Whoops, missed a trick there when i went from my preferred build at the top with the overclockable I5 to the inbudget build with the non overclockable I3

Personally id replace the motherboard with the H61 mobo, keep the bequiet psu (they are actually really well built and are well on their way to becomming as popular as corsair/coolermaster etc)
then with whatever saved replace the GTX550Ti with a better gfx card

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:04 pm
by Semaphia
Alright :)

Then I guess it's just a fight between the 660 & 7870 :cheers: Find some benchmarks for the games you enjoy playing most, and go with that one!

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:32 pm
by EWJ
Cheers for the advice.. I'd honestly like quad rather than an dual core.

Here's my best idea.

Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 Socket AM3+ 7.1 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard 349910 141 in stock £53.62 £53.62
Casecom Shiny Black Mid Tower Case with Front 120mm Red LED Fan - No PSU 160914 22 in stock £20.12 £20.12
Crucial 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Ballistix Tactical Memory Kit CL8 (8-8-8-24) 1.5V 311813 120 in stock £43.00 £43.00
Seagate 1TB Barracuda 3.5" SATA-III Hard Drive - 7200RPM 64MB Cache 319639 > 25 in stock £48.99 £48.99
Corsair 600W CX Builder Series 80 Plus Bronze PSU 3 Year Warranty 269259 66 in stock £54.72 £54.72
Sapphire HD 7870 GHZ OC Edition 2GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card 413364 168 in stock £174.99 £174.99
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4GHz Socket AM3 6MB L3 Cache Cache 125W Retail Boxed Processor 186428 28 in stock £83.70 £83.70

Cart total inc vat: £479.14

Any good?
Any thoughts?

IS the 965 outdated?
Would the 7870 be bottlenecked?

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:36 pm
by Ger-h
is this pc for you jim or someone else?

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:40 pm
by Semaphia
There's no huge difference between a 3220 & 965 BE when it comes to software - http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=102

And the 3220 would beat a 965 in most games going.

Would the 7870 be bottlenecked? I don't think so :) Nice lil midrange card with a cool little CPU. If you could spend a bit more, you could get an intel quad core...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-co ... 77w-retail

If you're having to decide between a 3220 & 965 though, the Ivy Bridge wins for me.

However... If you could budget for an aftermarket cooler, the 965 can be OC'd :) Forgot about that.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:09 pm
by EWJ
Ger-h wrote:is this pc for you jim or someone else?



Its for the kids.

sure I typed this response already, senility kicking in.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:06 am
by syco cocker
Good set up for the money.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:02 pm
by Ragonz
I have only ever had problems with Gigabyte motherboards on the intel side so personally i would shy away from them but saying that i havent ever used gigabyte for AMD.

As for the choice of CPU/GFX, the Phenom II x4 is a decentish CPU but its widely agreed in the IT world that the intel CPU's are far superior to the AMD ones. For example the brand new 8 core 4.0Ghz AMD processors barly keep up with an I5 2500K (2nd gen I5 not even the newest ones) However for a cheap gaming PC its not a bad idea

If you were to go with an Asus mobo with the Phenom II x4 (which actually beats some of the newer FX processors - what is AMD doing!) and the rest of the setup you posted that would make a decent low end/medium gaming machine.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:25 pm
by EWJ
OK My budget has incresased..

its now £700ish..

Go go go! i7 would be now preferable... :P

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:27 pm
by Ragonz
little over, you might be able to cut a few corners but this is my recommended build. However if your not interested in ever being able to overclock you can change the I7 3770K for an I7 3770 which will save you £30 and a different motherboard which will save you a little more.
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Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:14 pm
by EWJ
Aye, never been into Oc'ing. So I'd go for the 3770 and slightly cheaper mobo. Then i'll put that saving into a GTx660 or HD 7870.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:43 pm
by Semaphia
Why an i7? Hyperthreading has no benefits for 99% of games on the market. Save £90, buy an i5 3570k (in general gaming performance, just as good as the i7):

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-co ... 4x-ratio-7

Put it towards a 7950:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-giga ... dmi-mdpplu

If you really have no interest in overclocking, buy a retail 3570k (with the fan included), forget the aftermarket heatsink, but keep the motherboard. That way you should be closer to the £700 mark, you'll get a lot more gaming performance, and when the time comes and the CPU is starting to slack behind, all you'll need to overclock it is a new heatsink.

Re: Pc build.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:40 pm
by EWJ
ok.. Thanks for the advice.. I've gone and bought the 965 package. Main reason is my (her) car has ate into my pc money so I had to deal back on the expense. thanks for all the advice. <3