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P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:38 pm
by Lionheart
Trying to do a download via P2P and my ISP is BT.

BT do not throttle anything except P2P and they do this throughout peak hours.

When are typical peak hours?

Weekdays: 4pm - 12pm
Weekends: 9am - 12pm


So that doesn't leave many hours to download @ 200KB/s (throttling I get only 5KB/s).

Any (cheap/free) solutions please? :cheers:

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:50 am
by Enigma
Change the provider.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:22 am
by Kaelan002
Look up network tunnelling, you would have to have access to/rent another machine OUTSIDE the ISPs network though.
You can set up an SSH tunnel and set the p2p client to go over that, if you want to go deeper, you could then run said ssh tunnel over http.

This would forward (or "tunnel") the p2p traffic to said server, but masked, avoiding the throttling, it would then be subject to whatever network the end server is running on. The latter goes further, to mask it as HTTP, web traffic (*technically*, although not very well).

While free, overall a lot of hassle. The easier option would be to rent a vpn, to basically do the above. :P

Otherwise, a quick search reveals: http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Optimize_Bi ... aping_ISPs Somewhat sceptical of it working, but worth a try.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:09 pm
by Lionheart
Tried that website, no luck there :(

The free way is too complicated for me :D

So IPVanish is the one to go for?

Thanks :)

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:29 pm
by Seven.
Get a Seedbox. See https://seed.st/ and try it out for like 2 dollar for 7 days.

You get a torrent client at range which you control via a WebUI (through your browser). Which downloads content for you.
Then you connect to it through FTP and download the content from your seedbox. Easy peasy.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:21 pm
by Kaelan002
Lionheart wrote:So IPVanish is the one to go for?


I've personally never used them, but I've heard they're very good.

Fast
Massive amount of end points you can bounce through, both locally in and various different countries
Lots of protocols supported
No bandwidth cap
No logs are kept :roll:

They are relatively expensive though

The seedbox idea looks interesting, never heard of a company offering them like that before, I had a similar thing set up on a rented VPS.
The only issue is you are trusting said company to not get you sued ;)

But then this is of course all about completely legal file sharing... right? (oh hi there keyword recognition watchdogs)

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:03 pm
by Deathtaker27
just use a vpn, and do it from that as they cannot see what is in an encrypted vpn.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:56 pm
by VampyrByte
I am on BT and I must say that I dont experience throttling with them.

Try using a different client (I love Deluge), and make sure you have encryption enabled, or if possible forced.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:45 pm
by Jems
I'm on BT infinity and don't notice any.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:49 pm
by Lionheart
OK - next question guys !

I'm at Uni and they are definitely throttling :(

Speed test on speedtest.net is high
Steam downloads at between 1-5MB/s consistently
BT sport has no problems in HD for hours on end
BBC iPlayer freezes after 5 minutes consistently with insufficient bandwith
Most other TV looks pixelated, buffers very frequently.
Torrent websites say "Page cannot be displayed" rather than blocked etc.

Presumably not enough people have BT Sport set up for them to throttle it unlike BBC iPlayer etc

Would a VPN work in this instance - remembering that my internet is being supplied by their Ethernet cable - I just need to mask what I am looking at; not the amount :)

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:02 pm
by Security
You could look into newsgroups instead in the hope they aren't throttling that.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:08 pm
by Kaelan002
Last time I checked, newsgroups were being crippled with DMCA takedowns. It may have gotten *better* in the past six months, but they had become borderline unusable. :(

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:23 pm
by Security
I guess that all depends on which ones you use as a colleague of mine is crazy about them (I never had the need to go past torrents tho).

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:28 pm
by Lionheart
Security wrote:I guess that all depends on which ones you use as a colleague of mine is crazy about them (I never had the need to go past torrents tho).


Just some iPlayer occasionally would be nice :D
Never heard of a newsgroup to be honest in this context - where would I start? :)

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:42 pm
by sNaKeBiTe
Try using a VPN. I believe hotspotshield has a free trial.

Newsgroups are part of the Usenet which was in a way a predecessor to the world wide web. While it was designed for text files, today it's pretty much only used to share binary content, i.e. files. It's basically a server network on which everybody can upload something. To get access to these servers you have to pay a usenet provider (for example xsusenet). The advantages are that you can access thousands of TB of data with full speed in relative anonymity. The disadvantages are that for a year or so automated DMCA takedowns take down some of the uploads and it's not free.

I've been using it for years and it still works great. I barely notice the DMCA takedowns. You just have to know where to look and use nzb sites.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:14 pm
by Little_Devil
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Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:12 am
by Tar'el
Why download? Why not just stream stuff you need :)

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:00 am
by Security
Tar'el wrote:Why download? Why not just stream stuff you need :)

Region locking is one of the big reasons for me.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:27 pm
by Lionheart
Tar'el wrote:Why download? Why not just stream stuff you need :)



Well that's what I meant - sorry.
They are throttling the stream so it will freeze & say insufficient bandwith. Yet Steam is happy to download at ridiculously fast speeds - so just need to fool it into not thinking it is bbc iplayer I guess.

Re: P2P & Throtting

PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:34 pm
by Synaphix
All this effort for Eastenders eh? ;)

And as said before, try a VPN!