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Postby EvolvedMonkey on Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:14 pm

Its been mentioned a few times while doing a search on the forums but i'm surprised that its not mentioned more.

I use it quite a lot on my work PC and at home on my android tablet and through the TV on my little Android media box. I've just managed to get full HD streaming without slow down/buffering through the android media box.

Im running Frodo on the PC and tablet and on the media box i'm running Gotham as its introduced hardware decoding for android.

Anyone else use it?
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Re: XBMC

Postby Deathtaker27 on Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:36 pm

keep planning on but havent had the time to do it yet.
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Re: XBMC

Postby Kaelan002 on Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:07 pm

Take a look at Plex, the player was originally forked from XBMC, but their (proprietary) media server works very nicely - automatic meta-data fetching, live transcoding, remote access, sharing - all in all, very slick.
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Re: XBMC

Postby Security on Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:26 am

I looked into it a couple of years ago but never actually had any use for it.
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Re: XBMC

Postby Gh0st.IRE on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:46 pm

Kaelan002 wrote:Take a look at Plex, the player was originally forked from XBMC, but their (proprietary) media server works very nicely - automatic meta-data fetching, live transcoding, remote access, sharing - all in all, very slick.


I use Plex with my Roku box plugged into the TV downstairs and it's a sensational bit of kit, especially considering it's free to use.
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Re: XBMC

Postby Little_Devil on Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:25 pm

Interesting stuff, although integration of devices is the key here. I will certainly have a good look at XBMC and Plex

I looked into this many years ago, with the original windows media player, then different flavours of Linux packages, settling in the end on Geebox. That was the best around at the time. I then went and bought a WD Player for local network and internet content, but over the years this has changed quite a bit. I also run a Netgear NAS box with all the content on it.

TV is a different matter, as I have a slingbox which connects to other devices no matter where I am, and allows me to control my TV box from anywhere and watch recorded content and live broadcasts of anything my Sat dish can pick up. Laptop interface is free, and its something like a one off price of £10 for the android. http://www.slingbox.com/

Its not bad, and of course the content over the net is of a lesser quality, I am getting flickering at present, which I am presuming is something to do with buffering. All I need now is to integrate all this stuff :D

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Re: XBMC

Postby Little_Devil on Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:50 pm

Rather than start another thread, I will bump this one, since everything following is relevant.

I decided to look into this, but found Plex pretty limiting, unless you wanted to pay for its services. I can access a number of services through a WD box I have had for some years now, so I really don't need something like plex.

Now on to XBMC.
Over the years this has improved, with a lot of stuff being added into this system. I installed geexbox a Linux version onto my then HTPC, which is based on XBMC . Since that time there have been many more plug-ins added and of course the hardware to handle Home Theatre has of course advanced. Example would be this nice little box Cubox http://www.solid-run.com/ designed for media and of course the Rasberry-PI, which was never intended to be a media centre, but does show how far the software has progressed.

In the past you would have had to use something like a dedicated remote like the Microsoft one, however you can now use any cec enabled device to control the XBMC, which is standard on all modern TV's with a cec remote control. You can also control this by any android enabled device, be that a phone or a pad. I have set up a pad, because this will give you a gui showing all the accessible music and videos and if internet connected anything you want to watch/play.

I have now installed XBMC onto an old Vaio running windows XP.


If anyone is interested, i have loads of links to information, and can provide some help, or point to where you may find it.
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Re: XBMC

Postby MickeyLetord on Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:51 am

Sorry Devil, But I'm going to rush to Plexs aid here.

Pure and Simply, it's brilliant!

I personally have it running on a Server 2012 R2 Dual Core VM with Dynamic RAM (Hyper-V) so is fairly lightweight the majority of the time.
It's metadata sourcing is brilliant and the only thing it hasn't found properly is Doctor Who, but that's because I was naming it wrong...
Plex has brilliant on-the-fly transcoding abilities so all your films can be played on all devices, In which your content can be accessed anywhere in the world by accessing MyPlex and logging in.
There is a smartphone app for iOS & Android which works really well over a 3G connection, Desktop Application for a nice shiny UI, Roku/NowTV Application again lovely UI or a web interface to play your content on any PC.

IOS £2.99 - https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/plex/id383457673?mt=8
Android £3.05 - https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... d&hl=en_GB (Personally I just downloaded the .apk hehe :P)

Since getting this set up at home which was pretty much 'click and shoot', we've bought NowTV boxes for £10 each and put one on every TV in the house, My Parents saw what Plex could do and went a bit mad, the server can easily handle 5/6 devices streaming content internally at the same time with no issues.

Plex do also offer their PlexPass service which I don't use as it pretty much only allows for offline mobile sync and cache which I don't really think is a useful feature. As if I wanted to watch a movie on my phone, I'd stream it or put the file on my phone. PlexPass has never stopped my viewing experience.

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Re: XBMC

Postby Little_Devil on Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:21 pm

MickeyLetord wrote:Sorry Devil, But I'm going to rush to Plexs aid here.

Pure and Simply, it's brilliant!

If you have any further questions let me know :)


That's fine, and just shows the added support you get when it is a paid for service.

I am not a complete fan of XBMC, I just find it a useful package that is free, and as such don't mind working on it a little, to get everything integrated and working to an acceptable level.
It does have its failings in certain areas, particularly if you are trying to run it on an old slow machine, but I just use MPC to handle all Video content, and ffdshow for all the codecs.

I would just like to point out that I am trying to minimise on running costs, and although a paid for service integrates everything nicely its biggest disadvantage is those costs.

So from the above we need to really look at the value for money aspect of what Plex is offering, and don't get me wrong, I am not knocking the service aspect, and its ease of use, which I am sure is good.
Plex has brilliant on-the-fly transcoding abilities so all your films can be played on all devices
A big plus, but given a better machine than the one I am using, XBMC runs fine.It will also play on the Roku soon as well as the android devices. Unpaid programmers tend to take a little longer in some circumstances :) , but the breadth of their knowledge combined is vastly superior.

There is a smartphone app for iOS & Android
IOS £2.99 Android £3.05
This makes my point about the costs involved . XBMC runs on the following Windows, Linux, OSX – OSX x86-64, Android (ARM), Raspberry Pi, iOS, ATV – ATV 2 and XBMCbuntu.
Bandwidth of any LAN system, be that wired or not, is determined by what equipment you have, and should easily cope with quite a number of devices.

I don't like the NOW TV boxes, since they are just an added cost for media content delivery from SKY, and would prefer the Roku boxes over those, at least that is mainly free. :)
There are other boxes you can purchase which are not affiliated with these large companies, which tbh are just trying to squeeze every penny/cent out of you for media, a lot of it old.
SKY box/Apple TV + more on the horizon, all trying to get you to pay, pay, pay.

As far as watching anywhere in the world, you have to think where in the world you are going to go to that does not have TV/films, and tbh would you want to watch it when sat on a sun soaked beach or even at the hotel. I can think of a lot more pleasant things to do whilst away from home. :)
I can already watch my TV or any recordings I make away from home for free, but tbh honest I can access internet TV/films just as easily over the net, so rarely use it now.Novelty factor wears off and given MP3 files can be accessed for free from places like Amazon, there is little point tbh.

I do understand you when it comes to having a plug and play system, which works straight out of the box. Of course there are different levels to this, starting with the Media Giants offerings, which charge a lot of money, scaling down to disjointed media boxes and along the way researched products like Plex and XBMC.
To most people even Plex is unknown so it is just a matter of how much effort are you willing to put into getting something together.

Plex for a paid for apparently hassle free approach or XBMC which is free.

more xbmc help here http://www.xbmchub.com/blog/
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Re: XBMC

Postby MickeyLetord on Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:51 pm

Plex is completely free and now tv boxes are simply roku boxes but only cost a tenner. I've had plex running on single core low spec machines and it runs fine and the investment is however much you want. If you don't want to buy the app just use a browser. There are a certain few negligible services that if you so wish you can pay for. I think plex saved my last holiday. Was In a caravan in Clacton and the TV was broken and weather was rubbish so I just tethered my phone to my laptop and caught up on breaking bad :) I've used both plex and xbmc and I believe plex is the easier and more compatible service.
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