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Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:33 am

I moved to the country and the dust is becoming a serious issue so I seriously need to close my case side panel. :?

Is there a valid alternative to the heatsink stated in the subject that is not so high and still silent?
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby CiRuS on Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:41 am

technically you shouldn't have your case open in the first place as it disrupts the airflow over the motherboard and actually harms cooling?

However having a quick look through Toms Hardware, people seem to recommend the following as alternatives Thermalright Silver Arrow, Thermalright Archon or Thermalright Venomous X. Or you could buy a bigger case? this would do the job http://www.singular.com.cy/corsair-obsi ... audio.html which is 2cm larger than a standard tower and has multiple fans as standard.
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:22 am

I can't close the side panel because the heatsink is too hig, that 's why I need to change it. ;)

Buying another case is way too expensive and all the heatsinks you suggested are too high too, but thanks for your suggestions.
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Shuriken on Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:29 am

I wish I could help with suggestions, the reason I chose the corsair carbide 500 case was because it had an extra inch clearance space as I wanted a big heatsink lol. I do wish you the best of luck and if I see anything relevant I'll come back and be a bit more help lol <3
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:27 pm

Lol mate thanks, but don't worry if you cannot help as I am sure I will find the perfect solution now or then. <3
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby sNaKeBiTe on Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:33 pm

Well your case has 147mm of clearance so a Noctua NH-C14 would probably fit, just like most top blown coolers as long as you don't have giant heat sinks on your motherboard/ram.
The NH-C14 is still a 70€ cooler and there are cases out there that can handle an NH-D14 which are cheaper than 70€. You can get a Fractal Design R4 for 90€ and that even has sound dampening so it will be even quieter.

You can also have a look here, where you can filter out coolers that are higher than 150mm: http://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=cpucooler&x ... 50&sort=-p


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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Deathtaker27 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:56 pm

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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Ragonz on Wed Oct 16, 2013 12:58 pm

Just to jump in, I would recommend buying a bigger case or you will run into this problem again in the future
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:36 pm

Guys I spent more than € 150 to buy that case in 2011 (?) and honestly I don't want neither to move to a cheaper case nor to another expensive one. ;)

About liquid cooling no thanks.
As long as you can I still want to stick with air cooling.

I think sNaKeBiTe that the Noctua NH-C14 doesn't fit 'cause I asked already to Noctua ppl some days ago and they said that I still won't be able to close the side panel.

*Edit*
sNaKeBiTe maybe you are right 'cause I confused model.
I am going to know more about it right now. :)
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:46 pm

It's a no go for the Noctua NH-C14 as my Corsair Dominator RAM banks are too high (43 mm without the heatsink) compared to the 38 mm of available height.

Hmmmmm!! :x
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Seven. on Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:44 am

About liquid cooling no thanks.
As long as you can I still want to stick with air cooling.


I don't see a downside. Venture into the format of cooling your CPU and you'll never want air cooled mega blocks of copper and metal again.

Get one of these, there is no downside to a closed loop liquid cooler > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h10 ... ,3380.html
They're relatively affordable and keep your temps stable (no rapid fluctuations). Plus, they free up a LOT of space around the CPU bracket.
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:19 am

Seven. wrote:
About liquid cooling no thanks.
As long as you can I still want to stick with air cooling.


I don't see a downside. Venture into the format of cooling your CPU and you'll never want air cooled mega blocks of copper and metal again.

Get one of these, there is no downside to a closed loop liquid cooler > http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h10 ... ,3380.html
They're relatively affordable and keep your temps stable (no rapid fluctuations). Plus, they free up a LOT of space around the CPU bracket.

Sorry I wasn't clear.
What I meant is that I am not planning to spend alot of money and when I will decide to move to liquid cooling then it will have to be a serious kit. :P

Back in topic I can't believe there's no serious air heatsink with a low profile suitable for overclocked i7 CPUs...

So far I haven't find it.
Either it's too low (for my RAM banks) or unable to cool properly my occed i7. :?
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Seven. on Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:16 pm

If you want to over-clock, and I assume by "serious kit" you mean an open loop system, you should do that. Surely someone will disagree with me for saying this; for over-clocking**, get water.
**Silent, stable temperatures, ~20%+ OC

Most, if not all, air cooled blocks are humongous and won't fit nicely with your motherboard layout and/or peripherals on the motherboard. They need to be humongous to facilitate the heat absorption and heat spread into the mass. Which causes you to run into trouble due to measurements.

To list what I've read in a nutshell:
Your problem:
    - The Air Cooler to cool your over-clock is too big for the motherboard/peripherals/computer-case layout.
    - Smaller coolers won't keep up with your over-clock.
Your requirements:
    - Silent.
    - Can cool an over-clock.

There are coolers that are silent and can cool your over-clock, in exchange for these properties they are large blocks of a metal to absorb the heat. There are smaller coolers that can do the job, however they won't be silent as they don't have the mass to absorb more heat, thus they need to move air at a higher pace resulting in fan noise.

You mention that your RAM modules are too high to seat another cooler and the case is too tight of a fit to seat a cooler that's too high. It appears that you're stuck between these measurements.
You might get lucky and find that one cooler that has just the right size. But I wouldn't bet on it.

I'll stop here, because I sound too much like a salesmen trying to advertise a product :roll: . However, this is a genuine recommendation.
Invest in your system, get water. If you'd like an open loop system, all the better since you can customize any which way you want. However, these closed loop single purpose kits aren't bad at all, especially for your current requirements.

I wish you the best of luck finding a cooler befitting your requirements Cr4z33! Let us know if you find a suitable solution. :salute:
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:23 pm

Thanks Seven. for your deep 'analysis'. :lol:

At this point I made stick with what I have and in the future either:
A) Buy an even bigger case
or
B) Move to water cooling system.

Thanks all! <3
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Little_Devil on Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:03 am

The Noctua NH-D14

Height (without fan) 160 mm
Width (without fan) 140 mm
Depth (without fan) 130 mm
Height (with fan) 160 mm
Width (with fan) 140 mm
Depth (with fan) 158 mm

The Noctua NH-C14 30mm height difference but still quiet and cools well.

Height (without fan) 105 mm
Width (without fan) 140 mm
Depth (without fan) 166 mm
Height (with fan) 130 mm
Width (with fan) 140 mm
Depth (with fan) 166 mm

http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=prod ... =37&lng=en

The alternative is a CPU liquid cooler, rather than a system cooler.
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:08 am

Cr4z33 wrote:It's a no go for the Noctua NH-C14 as my Corsair Dominator RAM banks are too high (43 mm without the heatsink) compared to the 38 mm of available height.

Hmmmmm!! :x



Thanks anyway LD. ;)
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Little_Devil on Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:42 pm

Just thought you would be able to use the single fan option (65mm clearance), which gives you more board clearance, or even turn it by 90 degrees, which will give you the same clearance as you have now. 8mm is not much difference no idea what your present clearance is to the ram :) rotate the heat-sink by 90 degrees and the C14 has the same clearance as the N14 (Width (with fan) 140 mm)
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:43 am

Little_Devil wrote:Just thought you would be able to use the single fan option (65mm clearance), which gives you more board clearance, or even turn it by 90 degrees, which will give you the same clearance as you have now. 8mm is not much difference no idea what your present clearance is to the ram :) rotate the heat-sink by 90 degrees and the C14 has the same clearance as the N14 (Width (with fan) 140 mm)

Hmm didn't know I can put the fans on the sides! :shock:
I wonder now why Noctua support themself wanted to dissuade me from buying one of their products...

Thanks LD, I am going to investigate further! <3 :cheers:


*Update
Do you think that if I choose the single fan option I would still be fine with temperatures when my i7-930 is oveclocked to 4 GHz?
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Seven. on Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:52 am

What's your voltage when OC'd? The 930's VID Voltage Range is 0.800V-1.375V. The higher the voltage the warmer it gets.

The TJmax for the i7-930 is 100Celsius. During an OC @ 100% load you shouldn't get higher than 80Celsius to have enough space for "buffering" fluctuations in temperature. That counts double for air.
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Re: Need a Noctua NH-D14 alternative so I can close my case!

Postby Cr4z33 on Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:53 am

Seven. wrote:What's your voltage when OC'd? The 930's VID Voltage Range is 0.800V-1.375V. The higher the voltage the warmer it gets.

The TJmax for the i7-930 is 100Celsius. During an OC @ 100% load you shouldn't get higher than 80Celsius to have enough space for "buffering" fluctuations in temperature. That counts double for air.

I think I set it at about 1.1V, but I am not sure.
You saying that it wouldn't cool down enough when with single fan? :(
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