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Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Munkehboi on Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:04 am

Hi guys

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with Cyberpower PC's? I'm thinking of buying a new one (not building myself this time) and I stumbled upon this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00RGRNITU/r ... J7VVNPF8S1

Series Warrior Xtreme
Color White / Blue
Processor Brand Intel
Processor Type Core i5
Processor Speed 4.2 GHz
Processor Count 4
RAM Size 16 GB
Computer Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Hard Drive Size 2 TB
Graphics Card Description Nvidia GTX 970 4GB
Graphics RAM Type DDR3 SDRAM
Graphics Card Ram Size 4 MB
Operating System Windows 8.1

It's been a very long time since i've custom built my own one and I have not been keeping up to date with components etc for at least 5 years + so my knowledge of components is very limited now a days. Anyway my own built PC has bascially died after 6 years worth of service so I think I want to upgrade it for something pretty awesome.

Any thoguhts are much appreciated! Thanks


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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Silkie on Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:06 pm

Odd that it hasn't got an SSD. I rebuilt my games PC with one and once you use a system with a primary solid state drive nothing else will do.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby MajorTom on Sat Apr 11, 2015 12:01 am

Related, basically same story: My machine effectively "died" at 3am yesterday morning. I built that machine myself too about 6 years ago whilst at uni. It's been fine for the past 6 years but it's frequently blue-screened in the past few weeks, and after loads of hassle with Visual Studio versions clashing after installing/uninstalling and the official Microsoft response to: "re-install the OS", I thought it was a good time to upgrade!

I decided to just buy a prebuilt this time instead of constructing myself, and went with this machine from Scan:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-3xs ... b-hdd-w-o-

Ordered this yesterday, arrived today. So far, it's great.
Scan don't install bloatware, the only three programs were benchmark tools, with images verifying the scores on the desktop. Which is nice. :cheers:
Also, Win 8.1 seems a LOT faster too.


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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Enigma on Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:39 am

Silkie wrote:Odd that it hasn't got an SSD. I rebuilt my games PC with one and once you use a system with a primary solid state drive nothing else will do.
SSD is overrated. You can always use RAM disk for games which is faster and cheaper than SSD. Munkehboi could do that since his 16 GB RAM is absolutely useless for games.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Security on Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:03 am

SSD's aren't overrated and are worth the money these days, they are the cheapest thing you can upgrade too which you notice massively with boot up times of the OS and applications.
I haven't seen a bigger change in performance by upgrading a single piece of hardware since getting in to IT back in 2005.

MajorTom wrote:I decided to just buy a prebuilt this time instead of constructing myself, and went with this machine from Scan:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scan-3xs ... b-hdd-w-o-

Ordered this yesterday, arrived today. So far, it's great.

Haha, I am running that CPU and GPU and they have been everything I wanted (I do have 16GB RAM) and are solid for a beastly build. :)
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Enigma on Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:32 am

Could you elaborate why exactly is SSD worth it? I would like to hear that from a so called IT expert. Thanks.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Silkie on Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:08 pm

Polite as ever.

SSD as a primary for your OS does give boot times you have to see to believe and although in terms of storage they are currently lagging behind conventional drives the prices will continue to drop. With OS on the primary along with all essential applications and a few selected games anyone would notice an immediate difference on all day to day things. Install times, browsing, game load times are all extremely fast. Even compared to some of the quad RAID systems I've built on both SATA and SCSI the operations don't need any benchmarking to appreciate what SSD is capable of. It isn't the answer to every problem as after all you can still be stuck waiting for a badly written install and the like but I find it improves most aspects of Windows 8.1 operation.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby EWJ on Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:43 pm

Please start SSD discussions on another thread. <3.
Let's keep this one for Munkehboi's PC query's.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby tom13king on Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:18 pm

That PC is an absolute monster. I don't think any upgrades will be necessary at all for at least 4-5 years if you build that one.


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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Kaelan002 on Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:36 pm

I wouldn't overstate it that far. It's a pretty standard high end build, but nothing THAT extreme.

I'd try to find out what PSU they're using, as it's a pretty common thing for pre-builts to skimp on.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Munkehboi on Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:28 am

Thanks guys, i'm trying to find out the PSU. Waiting for seller repsonse.

Regarding the SSD compared to HDD debate, back in the days when I was tech savvy SSD wearn't really around so I have no experience with them. I understand how they work etc but are the load/read times that much faster than HDD?

Is it something I can upgarde to easily in the future?

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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby ApacheFlame on Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:17 am

Yes and yes :)

Although it may be worth spending the extra few quid and putting one in rather than faffing about voiding warranties. Have you tried speccing theough cyberpower themselves? There are quite a few gaming centric vendors these days.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Silkie on Sun Apr 12, 2015 4:38 pm

I think they use 600w Corsair PSU as a standard but it would be worth checking.

https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Munkehboi on Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:58 am

Thanks guys and yes Silkie they do use that PSU. I think I might bite the bullet and get it :)


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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Little_Devil on Sat May 30, 2015 11:38 pm

Silkie wrote:Odd that it hasn't got an SSD. I rebuilt my games PC with one and once you use a system with a primary solid state drive nothing else will do.

SSD was primarily brought out for laptops. SSHD is a better option, for price as it is optimised for faster performance for the programs you use regularly.

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Silkie wrote:Odd that it hasn't got an SSD. I rebuilt my games PC with one and once you use a system with a primary solid state drive nothing else will do.
SSD is overrated. You can always use RAM disk for games which is faster and cheaper than SSD. Munkehboi could do that since his 16 GB RAM is absolutely useless for games.

I agree, to a point, which is why an SSHD is ideal in most circumstances, but I think you will find that 16GB is ample coupled with the SSHD RAM, as long as it is optimised correctly. Seagate worked out that the majority of people used around 9 GB of memory space in a day for regular programs and they optimise the drives to take this into account, so you are actually mainly using the RAM portion of the disk for a lot of the time. Furthermore games have quite a bit of spare time in their schedulers for disk and memory management, so accessing files is solely down to how the game is written, which is why RAM disk will only have a marginal effect with games. I have a friend who writes the firmware for games machines, many of which utilise every bit of free time to get a performance edge. An example would be the game controller firmware which utilises the flyback time of the monitor to run its routines and of course frees up an interupt as this is a regular event at a specified time.

No point in saying my computer boots up very fast with an SSD, after all how many times a day do you actually boot up your computer. The firmware on board the SSHD ignores system boot files, because they are used the least amount of time of any files. The only other time an SSD comes into its own is on file transfer rates, yet again how many actual irregular file transfers would you do in a day with a desktop, and does the time difference make that much difference for the very few transfers you would do in a week. Good if you have a server, pretty useless for most anything else other than a laptop at present. When they come down to comparable prices with a spinning disk HDD, that will be the time to buy for regular use.

A 586 is ample for every game I have played to date and tbh it is a real work horse for most applications. An i7 is of course better, but then again, how often would you utilise the full computational power of that CPU.

This Desktop looks very balanced for what you need it for and of course you could upgrade parts easily at a later date. tbh changing the HDD for an SSD on this desktop, is an extravagance and waste of money, unless you are the type of person who just buys branded goods or has to have the latest thing, just for the sake of it. The SSD brings no benefit if you are an every day user, that plays games.

I think you will be happy with your choice and of course if you want to upgrade parts later, then that will depend on the technology at that particular time.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Kaelan002 on Sun May 31, 2015 12:54 pm

Little_Devil wrote:
Silkie wrote:Odd that it hasn't got an SSD. I rebuilt my games PC with one and once you use a system with a primary solid state drive nothing else will do.

SSD was primarily brought out for laptops. SSHD is a better option, for price as it is optimised for faster performance for the programs you use regularly. (<--key /kaelan)


Except for the fact that they only accelerate 8GB (source) worth of files. Rather than the 256GB worth an SSD (of this budget) would.

If you can afford a proper SSD in addition to a regular drive, or use little enough storage to run purely off SSD, it'll be a far better solution.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby Little_Devil on Sun May 31, 2015 2:58 pm

Well thanks for pointing that out and how much of that 256GB do you use on a daily basis ? I certainly don't use a lot.

I did mean to type 8GB not 9GB for the most people use during a day, and that is across all sectors not just light users. What is the point of saying an SSD has 256GB of space, that you just don't use regularly. Its a pointless statement, as the time to access random bits of data comes into play when it is irregular data. Testing of these drives makes no sense for the most part and are of academic interest only, given that all the test you see are having a computer doing a dedicated task with no real load on the CPU. Start to add in schedulers for the O.S, plus others for the application /s you are running at the same time, and the difference in speed becomes negligable.

SSD's vary quite a lot and unless you actually research them carefully you can end up with something that degrades faster than any HDD. Paying for a cheapo SSD is certainly not the answer and paying for the decent drives is stupid unless you are running a server or you regularly use a travel laptop.

I am not saying SSHD is the answer to all speed problems, but SSD's are less of an answer, given the cost per MB. Given the price differential, SSHD is certainly more worthwhile for the speed increase you get over a standard drive.

If you can afford a proper SSD in addition to a regular drive, or use little enough storage to run purely off SSD, it'll be a far better solution.

If you can afford to blow your money on a Ferrari to go shopping, why not. It won't make the shopping any cheaper and I doubt you will get there any faster, but it sure looks good. Just the same as an SSD hunting for what it is always seeing as random data.

I am not putting anyone off buying these things, just trying to save people money, by not having them believe all the hype and dross put out by many who should know better. An informed choice based upon facts rather than the rhetoric of the plethora of testers who are single minded.
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Re: Cyberpower custom build PC

Postby dmc25_uk on Sun May 31, 2015 3:25 pm

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