[PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Dym on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:14 pm

@Deadbolt - I think those Gold Players You was playing with were tested by Match Making System to see how they handle players from lower league.
I can see it by myself (im also in silver): when im playing bad, MMS selecting bronze players for me, when im playing better - then silver players appears, even gold and sometimes platinum.


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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Deadbolt on Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:54 pm

Dym wrote:@Deadbolt - I think those Gold Players You was playing with were tested by Match Making System to see how they handle players from lower league.
I can see it by myself (im also in silver): when im playing bad, MMS selecting bronze players for me, when im playing better - then silver players appears, even gold and sometimes platinum.


Yeah but it was weird how a lot of the golds were like that. The others I played at the time were all top silvers. Never any mid silvers or lower. it was like those people had gotten to gold using the same 1 base strategy.

Wizav wrote:Deadbolt for your ZvP do you get Adrenal glands for your lings? That turns them into killing machines against protoss


They attack just before I transition to hive so no. They base race as soon as the muta count is too high for them to handle. I don't even have a solid build order and just wing it every game once my pool is done lol
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby ScrewMeh* on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:38 am

Lol Deadbolt. I do pretty much the same. I have started playing Protoss a lot now. Once all 4 gates are done with warp gate, I go into twilight council for blink, then no idea what to do so I just build what ever pops in my head first. Also have a bad habit of using spare minerals to drop 3 forges and going for 3-3-3 ASAP
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby BenJy! on Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:04 pm

I'm a total n00b but if anyone fancies adding me than please do, aura1986@hotmail.co.uk :)

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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Deadbolt on Fri Dec 02, 2011 8:12 pm

Account name and Character code(hover over your avatar on the main menu), not email! :)
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Salva on Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:16 pm

can add by email aswell :p
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby BenJy! on Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:52 pm

Deadbolt wrote:Account name and Character code(hover over your avatar on the main menu), not email! :)


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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby AlexSeifer on Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:36 pm

ScrewMeh* wrote:Lol Deadbolt. I do pretty much the same. I have started playing Protoss a lot now. Once all 4 gates are done with warp gate, I go into twilight council for blink, then no idea what to do so I just build what ever pops in my head first. Also have a bad habit of using spare minerals to drop 3 forges and going for 3-3-3 ASAP


3 forges are a bit overkill, even with the cheaper upgrades, they aren't free :P I think if you have spare minerals, it's better to drop more pylons, because you have missed them or some gateway, but not too many, bases can sustain a set amount of gateway to build :P Having 20 gateways on 2 bases because your macro had an epic slip won't do much in the short term if you can't create units from them XD
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Salva on Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:30 pm

shield upgrades are pointless anyway.

doesn't add to shields or damage they can take, just upgrades the speed shields regen out of battle, only worth getting in a very long game when your max'd and already on 3 3 weapons and armor
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby AlexSeifer on Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:54 pm

That was something i ignored, i thought shield upgrades were like armor. I remember talking to a friend about Broodlord's broodlings vs maxed out Archonts, and he said that an Archont would reach 6 armor that way. I think he misunderstood. For all that i care, shields are just emp targets :lol:
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Wizav on Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:04 am

That's not true Salva, Shield upgrades give shields armor. Ground upgrades give HP armor. I'm pretty sure the upgrades have no effect on shield regeneration.

Ling (5 damage) vs Zealot 100/50 (+1 base armor )

+1 armor

10 hits to kill shield , 34 hits to kill HP - 44 total hits

+ 1 Shield

13 hits to kill shield , 25 hits to kill HP - 38 total hits

No upgrades

10 hits to kill shield , 25 hits to kill hp - 35 total hits

3 shield = 75 hits - cost 675/675
3 armor = 110 hits - cost 450/450

Stalkers/Sentry/Probe/High templar/Warp Prism/Interceptor All benefit from Shield or Armor upgrades equally as they have equal HP/Shield. Dark Templar/Archon benefit much more from shields with 40/80 and 10/350.

Everything else benefits much more from ground armor. The only time shield upgrade is beneficial or cost effective is when you mix ground/air with the ground units that benefit from shield like stalker/sentry/archon

Shield also gives building shields armor so cannons/expansions can survive a bit longer mid/late


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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Salva on Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:58 pm

ahhh my bad, just going by what Tekei told me.


watched the final of the blizzard cup yesterday, final between DRG and MMA was epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FUl22ZpceQ final credits, damn those koreans, go all out :) lazers, fire, smoke and 35k for the winner :o
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby BenJy! on Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:41 pm

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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby thomo081092 on Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:08 pm

Man, the homestory cup was epic. Soo many good games like JYP and MC with their blink micro or even the 55min game between JYP and Dimaga. But the best moment was seeing MC shuffle with around 60k viewers :D Tbh, I kinda preferred the whole setup because it was alot more laid back. It was good to see some of the pro's casting games also. All in all, great tournament :)
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby BenJy! on Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:26 pm

Never understood all the hate MC gets sometimes, sure he's a little cocky but he's really entertaining and always provides a laugh. Sadly I didn't catch all of Homecup but I caught some games, JYP looks phenomenal.
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Tsenister on Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:23 pm

Wizav wrote:That's not true Salva, Shield upgrades give shields armor. Ground upgrades give HP armor. I'm pretty sure the upgrades have no effect on shield regeneration.

Ling (5 damage) vs Zealot 100/50 (+1 base armor )

+1 armor

10 hits to kill shield , 34 hits to kill HP - 44 total hits

+ 1 Shield

13 hits to kill shield , 25 hits to kill HP - 38 total hits

No upgrades

10 hits to kill shield , 25 hits to kill hp - 35 total hits

3 shield = 75 hits - cost 675/675
3 armor = 110 hits - cost 450/450

Stalkers/Sentry/Probe/High templar/Warp Prism/Interceptor All benefit from Shield or Armor upgrades equally as they have equal HP/Shield. Dark Templar/Archon benefit much more from shields with 40/80 and 10/350.

Everything else benefits much more from ground armor. The only time shield upgrade is beneficial or cost effective is when you mix ground/air with the ground units that benefit from shield like stalker/sentry/archon

Shield also gives building shields armor so cannons/expansions can survive a bit longer mid/late


Pretty much the only reason you should be upgrading shields over armour with Protoss if you are doing some kind of 2 base blink stalker build since you only really want to take shield damage when you mass stalker the +1 shields + 1 attack negates more damage over the course of hte battle. Otherwise it's 3atk 3 armour first against terran/zerg unless it's against zerg which then I tend to favour getting +3atk and then +2 armour +1 shields since the shields help against ling runbys and for archons.

If protoss players were clever they would make a mother ship against a zerg instead of of getting the 3rd armour and 2nd and 3rd shield upgrades to finish the game.
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby AlexSeifer on Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:21 pm

Sigh, i restarted playing sc2. I was never good, but now i'm quite embarassing <.< Stupid 6 months break.

My plan is to add 30min a day of training, and take this game seriously.
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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby BenJy! on Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:42 pm

AlexSeifer wrote:Sigh, i restarted playing sc2. I was never good, but now i'm quite embarassing <.< Stupid 6 months break.

My plan is to add 30min a day of training, and take this game seriously.


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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby Revolving Ocelot on Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:56 pm

BenJy! wrote:
AlexSeifer wrote:Sigh, i restarted playing sc2. I was never good, but now i'm quite embarassing <.< Stupid 6 months break.

My plan is to add 30min a day of training, and take this game seriously.


MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!MACRO!


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Re: [PC - RTS] Starcraft 2

Postby BenJy! on Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:19 am

SpAwN mOrE oVeRlOrDs ! ! !
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