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Back and playing again - anyone else seeing strange stuff?

Postby Pro on Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:53 pm

Hi all.

Enjoying being back and playing again. I like the new update with awards/achievements etc, and seeing allot of the regs again :)

But during a extended gaming session today i noticed kind of strange things happening.

1. Occasionally i would see a enemy who would be standing on the same spot but moving around looking changing weapons etc. I would shoot them but nothing happens, walk right up to them shoot again nothing, they do not return fire. I then move right next to them, i shoot again and nothing, and then suddenly they shoot me :shock:

2. Being killed by people nowhere near me. Like going through axis sniper house, then getting killed by someone with a assault in US sniper house :o with no los (let alone the range accuracy with the weapon) :shock:

Apart from this really good to be back, just wanted to know if anyone else sees anything else like this? Not sure if it was "cheating" as the named people seemed to carry on playing unopposed. Just starting to think its a prob with my client.
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Postby Flawless on Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:01 pm

Both are bugs since the update, I think I heard it was caused by lag and/or alt tabbing. Apparently both can be fixed by starting a demo and stopping it straight after.
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Postby Tickle Me Emo on Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:05 am

That is most probably because you've alt-tabbed out of the game. You'll see players pronesprinting and stuff too :P

Restart the game, or try wath flawless says :D


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Postby Maddox on Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:02 pm

Ohh, don't get me started on dods bugs :D

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1. Occasionally i would see a enemy who would be standing on the same spot but moving around looking changing weapons etc.

I've had that too, only the game played as normal, but everyone looked like they were changing weapons all the time. Probably a bug, as I've only experienced it once

2. Being killed by people nowhere near me


Does anyone know what this is, happened to me too and I've heard several people telling about it. E.g. I got killed inside cafe on donner by a guy in front of allied sniperhouse :?

And another thing that's bothering me, I keep getting killed all the time, and I can't hit anything, must be a bug with the new update :wink:


EDIT: PS: I saw these things without alt-tab'ing


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Postby Xerxes on Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:12 pm

Severe lag of hit boxes?
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Postby Flawless on Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:38 pm

EDIT: PS: I saw these things without alt-tab'ing
as I said it can be caused by lag, its bound to happen to everyone at some point. retry in console, start a demo and stop it restart the game should all work.
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Postby juff on Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:17 pm

There are a lot of complaints at the moment about things like; not seeing someone shoot you (just after you are dead, then you see them come round the corner) and being shot after you run around a corner (when you should be safe) These are hit box lag problems (The ‘skin’ you run around in, or see of others, is not in fact where you (or they) actually are.
I personally think it’s not all down to the players or servers and that valve need to have a look into this. But, as Flawless has stated above retrying etc can sometimes help.
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Postby Pro on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:35 pm

Many thanks for the responses guys. Indeed i found that retry-demo-retry seems to help sometimes, cheers flaw.

See you all in game soon :twisted:
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Postby Xerxes on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:44 pm

Any idea why the demo start-stop-restart trick works?
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Postby Flawless on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:46 pm

Gandy can probably answer it correctly, at a guess its because starting a demo causes the game to resync itself.
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Postby Xerxes on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:48 pm

Surely that's a massive flaw then? I should imagine you could exploit this 'unsyching' effect to major advantage and have it appear that your game is merely lagged up?
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Postby gandy on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:06 pm

there is player/map draw issues with dod atm, not sure if it effects lower player count but it is there.

I am trying to prove this issue so i present valve with evidence of this.

I can prove the map draw issue but not the player draw issue at this time.
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Postby Flawless on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:14 pm

Xerxes wrote:Surely that's a massive flaw then? I should imagine you could exploit this 'unsyching' effect to major advantage and have it appear that your game is merely lagged up?
Its a client side thing, its not the person you're trying to shoot/who killed you through 10 buildings at the other side of the maps fault.

there is player/map draw issues with dod atm, not sure if it effects lower player count but it is there.
Happens in 6vs6 clan matches, although much more rarely than 32 man public servers
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Postby Xerxes on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:16 pm

By client side, do you mean the server? If it were on the player's client, then they would be able to rig it, surely? :)

(a bit confused :))
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Postby Flawless on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:27 pm

What I mean is, its happening on your computer. The person who kills you on the other side of the map only appears there on your computer, for him he'd be looking right at you with the xhair over you.

Same with the other bug.
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Postby Xerxes on Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:33 pm

Oh, I see. :)

It all makes sense now :)
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