Jump+crouch

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Do you jump+crouch around enemies?

Yes
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No
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Sometimes
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Havent tried
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Jump+crouch

Postby Slippery Lizard on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:21 pm

Been having a chat with maddox about people jumping+crouching and i wanted to know everyone elses opinion. To me war games are meant to be a "simulation" of war or something similar and you cant exaclty do that in real life can you. (Yes i know dods does have some problems with things that could be improve etc)

In my opinion and feel its cheating as the person who is jumping gains an unfair advantage as they can fix their sights on an enemy while the enemy would get confused or like me miss the other person and then die. Maddox said that in mid air its hard to fix ur sights on someone but i still feel by jumping you can gain an advantage...

..what do you think? Do you jump+crouch?
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby ANEKi on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:26 pm

True it's meant to be a WW2 sim, and yes, it's just a game. Call it an exploit if you like. They try and cheat the system every way they can and DOD is no exception. I find it comical some of the stuff you can do.


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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Flawless on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:51 pm

Slippery Lizard wrote:In my opinion and feel its cheating as the person who is jumping gains an unfair advantage as they can fix their sights on an enemy while the enemy would get confused or like me miss the other person and then die.


More your problem really that the player who is doing wouldn't you think?

I do it all the time, everyone else can do it so it's hardly 'unfair', nor is it an exploit. Heres a question for you, how you meant to get over certain sandbags and other objects with out doing it?

And DODS is hardly a "war simulator" either, everything from the physics of the weapons to how you win battles is wrong for it to be even considered one.


They try and cheat the system every way they can and DOD is no exception
Just had to call you on this, if people want to play like idiots fine. Just don't QQ about things becuase you got schooled by a player who knows how to play better. Fair enough if they are using a true exploit (like glitching to get outside the map, or using that old bug when the engine was updated to move fast will proned) but this is hardly one of those situations.
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Ringworm on Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:48 am

i do it alot and its not an exploit lolage and yes everyone can do it
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Maddox on Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:14 am

As I said, I do it automaticly without thinking about, guess after years of gaming it's just a reflex. Strangely enough I do feel "gulity" about it sometimes, when I see I really confuse someone. But as much as anyone can "bunnyjump", anyone can also learn to get used to it, and counter it.

About the realism, I know what you mean Liz, but bunnyhopping isn't on the top of my list of realism-complaints for DODS :D

PS: Interesting topic though, I see alot of players on the server who don't jump AT ALL! :S


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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby a box on Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:09 pm

DoD:S is about as much as a "War Sim" as CoD. Its a run and gun and thats it. Much like CoD and BF2 people will find ways of playing like that its just the nature of run and gun games. If you want a true sim either play ARMA2/ OFP2 (when released) or keep playing on RO or Darkest Hour.

DoD:S is great for fast action and charging about gunning down lots of people, its easy to pick up and play and thats about it. Personally DoD:S is my run and gun em' game. Darkest Hour is my realistic war game for the time being (C'mon ARMA2 and OFP2 :D).

Don't class this jump and crouch as cheating, just learn to shoot the nobbers either in mid air or as soon as they land. Thats how I take out my most hated spacebar monkey opponents :).

If you want a more realistic tactical game gimmie a shout on Steam and get Darkest Hour up :)


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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Relic on Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:10 pm

Like Maddox, its just a reflex. :roll:
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Tickle Me Emo on Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:03 pm

I think people proning with their feet sticking out of the wall are cheating too !

Anything thats possible to do without gaining an unfair advantage (something that anybody can do with no "special" set-up) should be allowed imo.


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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Logic3 on Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:41 am

If it lets you do it, do it.

If the game wouldnt let you do it then thats fine, but cause the Source engine allows you then i think its allowed

Notice the Garand gets like 11 clips of ammo, i doubt each soldier had that much on them so thats another "real-life sim" part of the game gone

Jump, crouch then prone = ownage
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Pro on Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:38 am

Yep - its a reactionary thing i can not change :)

Its not cheating. It has advantages and disadvantages to it.
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Sgt Abraxas on Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:06 pm

Guilty i do it and i dnt class it as cheating just a way i play the game to try and better a player, we all have our own ways of playing and i do believe more do it than dont!
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Relic on Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:02 pm

If people want a real war sim... buy Red Orchestra! - http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Logic3 on Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:45 pm

Relic wrote:If people want a crap war sim... buy Red Orchestra! - http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby syco cocker on Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:04 am

Logic3 wrote:If it lets you do it, do it.

If the game wouldnt let you do it then thats fine, but cause the Source engine allows you then i think its allowed

Notice the Garand gets like 11 clips of ammo, i doubt each soldier had that much on them so thats another "real-life sim" part of the game gone

Jump, crouch then prone = ownage

The riflemen were issued with 10 clips + 1 in the breech so this part of the game is spot on :wink:
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Logic3 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:28 am

Tbh i find it crap. More fun if u run outta ammo and have to find a gun! 5 clips ftw!
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Relic on Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:51 am

Logic3 wrote:
Relic wrote:If people want a crap war sim... buy Red Orchestra! - http://store.steampowered.com/app/1200/


Its not crap... its just different. :P
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Logic3 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:43 pm

Lmao ill agree on that. Im crap at it too :(
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Re: Jump+crouch

Postby Primal ShadoW on Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:16 pm

obviously slippery lizard was high when he posted this.


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