recommend some guides for complete beginners

[bigbmxdave]

Does anyone know of any good tutorials for making tf2 maps completely from scratch? i've installed the SDK but opening it I had no idea what I was doing, I made a box and twirled it around before giving up.

There are lots of tutorials on google but I cant find one aimed at a completely beginner, anyone have any recommendations?

[alias]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Your_First_Map

Then to find other guides you can use the following 2:
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Level_Design
http://forums.tf2maps.net/forumdisplay.php?f=57

obviously, tf2 needs some gameplay mechanic... And for that search how to make valid tf2 spawnpoints and i would suggest control points (even though ctf is easier). The search function on the valve wiki works best for that as it generaly has the most basic guides.

[Garner]

tf2maps.net is a great resource and is always recommended
Also i like to use MapCore for some design theory and general gameplay ideas: http://forums.mapcore.net/

However the Valve developed wiki is the best option